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Thread: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

  1. #1

    The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Just watched it

    Christ that was a difficult watch

    Those lads went through hell

    Tom Mangold whose documentary on the cardiff three many years ago was also gripping viewing said ......

    If you frame an innocent man for murder .....then you become a murderer yourself

    And looking at how the lives of those men turned out it as if they have been murdered 😕

    It is absolutely shameful and disgraceful that those men were framed and fitted up by police officers in Cardiff

    It is disgraceful that a senior police officer at the time of the appeal when the three walked free said that it seemed the justice system appeared to be more in favour of the criminal than the victim . Wtf was he doing saying that after a QC found them not guilty , a man clearly a thousand times brighter than him !

    And it's disgusting that those 8 police officers did not face prison sentences ......and retired on pensions ......after they basically ruined those mens lives and that of their families .

    Shame on them and shame on the justice system for allowing them to get away with it

    Its all very well people saying oh that was a long time ago , it couldn't and wouldn't happen now

    Yeah OK 👌

  2. #2

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Just watched it

    Christ that was a difficult watch

    Those lads went through hell

    Tom Mangold whose documentary on the cardiff three many years ago was also gripping viewing said ......

    If you frame an innocent man for murder .....then you become a murderer yourself

    And looking at how the lives of those men turned out it as if they have been murdered ��

    It is absolutely shameful and disgraceful that those men were framed and fitted up by police officers in Cardiff

    It is disgraceful that a senior police officer at the time of the appeal when the three walked free said that it seemed the justice system appeared to be more in favour of the criminal than the victim . Wtf was he doing saying that after a QC found them not guilty , a man clearly a thousand times brighter than him !

    And it's disgusting that those 8 police officers did not face prison sentences ......and retired on pensions ......after they basically ruined those mens lives and that of their families .

    Shame on them and shame on the justice system for allowing them to get away with it

    Its all very well people saying oh that was a long time ago , it couldn't and wouldn't happen now

    Yeah OK ��
    Sludge me and the mrs were so amazed that the guilty racist police walked free.Shame on the police.

  3. #3

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    I watched it all 2 weeks ago. The collapse of the trial against the police officers was shocking as well with the missing documents which were later found.

    Horrible watching them all smiles when the trial collapsed.

    Its just wrong that they havent faced the justice they deserve.

    Yeah and your right that Senior Police Officer what an utter w@nker.

  4. #4

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I watched it all 2 weeks ago. The collapse of the trial against the police officers was shocking as well with the missing documents which were later found.

    Horrible watching them all smiles when the trial collapsed.

    Its just wrong that they havent faced the justice they deserve.

    Yeah and your right that Senior Police Officer what an utter w@nker.
    He retired early too and went jogging somewhere with a load of blokes

    Probably the coppers who walked

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    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Sludge me and the mrs were so amazed that the guilty racist police walked free.Shame on the police.
    It's mind boggling isn't it

    They also bullied the witnesses into giving false statements

    Then used the statements to frame the suspects !

    How are they not in front of the beak ?

  6. #6

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    I thought I had a decent knowledge of what happened in the Lynette White case, but that programme was a real eye opener - the corruption was, obviously, bad enough, but I couldn't get over how thick the police came across as being.

  7. #7

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's mind boggling isn't it

    They also bullied the witnesses into giving false statements

    Then used the statements to frame the suspects !

    How are they not in front of the beak ?
    Don’t forget the witnesses the bent police forced confessions out of went down too…..not the police though….un effin believable

  8. #8

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    I still can’t get over how you can find a bloke guilty of something when 13 people testified he was working on a boat 10 miles away.
    The system is broken.

  9. #9

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    I still canít get over how you can find a bloke guilty of something when 13 people testified he was working on a boat 10 miles away.
    The system is broken.
    Crazy. However sh!t and corrupt the police were how can a jury ignore this and the judge gives direction. I really dont understand this at all.

  10. #10

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    South Wales police have left a huge scar across Cardiff in a number of cases.
    The fact the police responsible have never been brought to justice just adds more pain to the people involved.
    Is it any wonder black and minority people have absolutely no trust in them whatsoever.

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    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    This was a shocking case. What surprised me was that the coppers directly involved were held accountable (even though the trial against them collapsed in questionable circumstances) but not the more senior officers who must have encouraged the culture of framing people and then fitting so called evidence against them.

    Another odd thing was that 3 people were prosecuted and imprisoned for giving false evidence against the Cardiff 5 and later Cardiff 3 but even the judge indicated that they were forced into such confessions by the Police who got off scott free.

    All in all the whole thing was shameful but compelling viewing.

  12. #12

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Crazy. However sh!t and corrupt the police were how can a jury ignore this and the judge gives direction. I really dont understand this at all.
    Yes those jurors should one day be asked questions

  13. #13

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    South Wales police have left a huge scar across Cardiff in a number of cases.
    The fact the police responsible have never been brought to justice just adds more pain to the people involved.
    Is it any wonder black and minority people have absolutely no trust in them whatsoever.
    Well the families of those framed certainly won't

    John Actie looks haunted and poor old Tony Parris looks old beyond his years . Living alone , barely coming out . They must suffer with post traumatic stress .

    Actie says as a young man he and his friends were often given racist abuse by the police in vans .

    People talk about black people .....playing the race card

    Well I believe John Actie and Tony Parris

  14. #14

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Did any of these guys receive compensation?

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    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    This was a shocking case. What surprised me was that the coppers directly involved were held accountable (even though the trial against them collapsed in questionable circumstances) but not the more senior officers who must have encouraged the culture of framing people and then fitting so called evidence against them.

    Another odd thing was that 3 people were prosecuted and imprisoned for giving false evidence against the Cardiff 5 and later Cardiff 3 but even the judge indicated that they were forced into such confessions by the Police who got off scott free.

    All in all the whole thing was shameful but compelling viewing.
    The bloke sent down for lying was a homosexual . The police bullied him about this saying if he didn't stand against these boys he would find life difficult . He stood against the boys , helped , together with police , send them down and then later HE goes to prison ....and the police get feck all and get their pensions !

    WTF

  16. #16

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Did any of these guys receive compensation?
    Yes but not that much

  17. #17

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Yes those jurors should one day be asked questions
    Never trust a Jack eh?

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    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Did any of these guys receive compensation?
    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I thought I had a decent knowledge of what happened in the Lynette White case, but that programme was a real eye opener - the corruption was, obviously, bad enough, but I couldn't get over how thick the police came across as being.
    Aye , it was like something out of the sweeney

  19. #19

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    This was a shocking case. What surprised me was that the coppers directly involved were held accountable (even though the trial against them collapsed in questionable circumstances) but not the more senior officers who must have encouraged the culture of framing people and then fitting so called evidence against them.

    Another odd thing was that 3 people were prosecuted and imprisoned for giving false evidence against the Cardiff 5 and later Cardiff 3 but even the judge indicated that they were forced into such confessions by the Police who got off scott free.

    All in all the whole thing was shameful but compelling viewing.
    All of this…can you imagine going down for perjury but the officers that forced you into it got off?

  20. #20

    Re: The final part of A Killing In Tiger Bay

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Yes but not that much
    Miller half a million, JA and RA 250k wasn’t it? Not enough I’m sure, I bet they would much rather have seen those coppers rot in jail for what they did

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