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Thread: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

  1. #1

    Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Today's defeat was City's fourth in the last five league matches and let's be honest here - the team's performance in the first half of the one game they have managed to win recently was utterly awful.

    Mick McCarthy's reign as Cardiff manager began brightly enough, but the team's record in the last 20 league games under him is as follows:

    Won 6, drawn 7, lost 7.

    The six teams City managed to beat during that run were Swansea, Wycombe, who are now in League One, a Birmingham side that was full of youngsters and reserves, newly-promoted Blackpool, draw specialists Millwall and struggling Nottingham Forest. Not the the toughest of opponents at this level

    Meanwhile, Neil Warnock's Middlesbrough slumped to another defeat at Reading earlier today. Boro have won just one of their last seven Championship games - a 2-0 victory at Nottingham Forest.

    While the Championship looks weak this season, it seems the prehistoric football served up by Messrs McCarthy and Warnock is cutting little mustard.

  2. #2

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Today's defeat was City's fourth in the last five league matches and let's be honest here - the team's performance in the first half of the one game they have managed to win recently was utterly awful.

    Mick McCarthy's reign as Cardiff manager began brightly enough, but the team's record in the last 20 league games under him is as follows:

    Won 6, drawn 7, lost 7.

    The six teams City managed to beat during that run were Swansea, Wycombe, who are now in League One, a Birmingham side that was full of youngsters and reserves, newly-promoted Blackpool, draw specialists Millwall and struggling Nottingham Forest. Not the the toughest of opponents at this level

    Meanwhile, Neil Warnock's Middlesbrough slumped to another defeat at Reading earlier today. Boro have won just one of their last seven Championship games - a 2-0 victory at Nottingham Forest.

    While the Championship looks weak this season, it seems the prehistoric football served up by Messrs McCarthy and Warnock is cutting little mustard.
    I think this style of football has been worked out for sure mate. It could cost us our place in this league unless something drastic is done.

  3. #3

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    I think this style of football has been worked out for sure mate. It could cost us our place in this league unless something drastic is done.
    Not according to the DML brigade, despite the fact that a number of posters have been saying this for years!

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw View Post
    Not according to the DML brigade, despite the fact that a number of posters have been saying this for years!
    I'll admit I was one of the "if we're winning I don't care" brigade, but we've been found out big time over the last few matches. The lack of real quality in our squad is scary and we're now not even good at what we should be good at.

  5. #5

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    People are talking about the possibility of City being dragged into a relegation scrap. Middlesbrough fans must be thinking the same about their team. In their last seven games, Boro have played QPR, Derby, Blackburn, Coventry, Nottingham Forest, Blackpool and Reading. The only side out of that lot they managed to beat was Forest.

    I've long been of the opinion that the ideal time for Warnock to retire would have been straight after guiding City to promotion in 2018. Things could have been very different for both the Bluebirds and Warnock had that happened. But he just couldn't leave it there. Instead, City are still paying a heavy price for his poor purchases and he's almost certainly going to end up having been sacked from his final two jobs in football.

  6. #6

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    People are talking about the possibility of City being dragged into a relegation scrap. Middlesbrough fans must be thinking the same about their team. In their last seven games, Boro have played QPR, Derby, Blackburn, Coventry, Nottingham Forest, Blackpool and Reading. The only side out of that lot they managed to beat was Forest.

    I've long been of the opinion that the ideal time for Warnock to retire would have been straight after guiding City to promotion in 2018. Things could have been very different for both the Bluebirds and Warnock had that happened. But he just couldn't leave it there. Instead, City are still paying a heavy price for his poor purchases and he's almost certainly going to end up having been sacked from his final two jobs in football.
    Giving Warnock another year after relegation just summed up the knowledge of the board members, absolutely zero.
    It effectively wasted our parachute payments on another whole load of Warnock ball players.
    I've got to be honest the man didn't give a fack about Cardiff City it was all about his ego.
    I've was never taken in by the spiel he spews out at every club he goes to.

  7. #7

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    I think you can get away with what's called Dinosaur football if you add pace and the odd fella like Tomlin who has exceptional flair.

    It won't provide a long term development though, modern football has to come from the development squads and mindset of the boardroom ( see Brentford for way forward and reference )

  8. #8

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    Giving Warnock another year after relegation just summed up the knowledge of the board members, absolutely zero.
    It effectively wasted our parachute payments on another whole load of Warnock ball players.
    I've got to be honest the man didn't give a fack about Cardiff City it was all about his ego.
    I've was never taken in by the spiel he spews out at every club he goes to.
    If we keep Mick then we'll waste a load more money too this coming summer.

    Tan and the board he puts in place are clueless and he seems to have lost interest.
    We're now a club who are clueless and doing it on the cheap. Never going to end well.

  9. #9

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    If we keep Mick then we'll waste a load more money too this coming summer.

    Tan and the board he puts in place are clueless and he seems to have lost interest.
    We're now a club who are clueless and doing it on the cheap. Never going to end well.
    How can you waste money if you don't have any to spend?

  10. #10

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    How can you waste money if you don't have any to spend?
    Or should I say waste what he is given.

    He'll probably end up with a team of kids if Tan and the gang get their way.

  11. #11

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I think you can get away with what's called Dinosaur football if you add pace and the odd fella like Tomlin who has exceptional flair.

    It won't provide a long term development though, modern football has to come from the development squads and mindset of the boardroom ( see Brentford for way forward and reference )
    You're right, how many times has Hoillet bailed us out in the past, Tomlin, we have no plan B or flair player to do that now.

  12. #12

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    You're right, how many times has Hoillet bailed us out in the past, Tomlin, we have no plan B or flair player to do that now.
    And there is the difference between NW and MM

  13. #13

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    People are talking about the possibility of City being dragged into a relegation scrap. Middlesbrough fans must be thinking the same about their team. In their last seven games, Boro have played QPR, Derby, Blackburn, Coventry, Nottingham Forest, Blackpool and Reading. The only side out of that lot they managed to beat was Forest.

    I've long been of the opinion that the ideal time for Warnock to retire would have been straight after guiding City to promotion in 2018. Things could have been very different for both the Bluebirds and Warnock had that happened. But he just couldn't leave it there. Instead, City are still paying a heavy price for his poor purchases and he's almost certainly going to end up having been sacked from his final two jobs in football.
    I didnt think we sacked him?

  14. #14

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I didnt think we sacked him?
    Think Dalman said after Warnock resigned that he offered his resignation and Dalman tried to talk him into staying. How much of that was true and not just saying it I dunno, writing was on the wall.

  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    Think Dalman said after Warnock resigned that he offered his resignation and Dalman tried to talk him into staying. How much of that was true and not just saying it I dunno, writing was on the wall.
    Was Warnock saying it, not sure if Dalman followed up with the same
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  16. #16

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    Think Dalman said after Warnock resigned that he offered his resignation and Dalman tried to talk him into staying. How much of that was true and not just saying it I dunno, writing was on the wall.
    Yeah I seem to remember that.

  17. #17

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I didnt think we sacked him?
    You're probably right, which further underlines how clueless Tan and his minions are. Whatever the actual circumstances of Warnock's departure, the fact is that he left while the team was on a significant downward spiral. No doubt the same will be true when he departs Middlesbrough, which may not be long the way things are going.

  18. #18

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    If we keep Mick then we'll waste a load more money too this coming summer.

    Tan and the board he puts in place are clueless and he seems to have lost interest.
    We're now a club who are clueless and doing it on the cheap. Never going to end well.
    Ok so answer me this. You keep knocking Tan so who would you want instead? Let's have some names

  19. #19

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Today's defeat was City's fourth in the last five league matches and let's be honest here - the team's performance in the first half of the one game they have managed to win recently was utterly awful.

    Mick McCarthy's reign as Cardiff manager began brightly enough, but the team's record in the last 20 league games under him is as follows:

    Won 6, drawn 7, lost 7.

    The six teams City managed to beat during that run were Swansea, Wycombe, who are now in League One, a Birmingham side that was full of youngsters and reserves, newly-promoted Blackpool, draw specialists Millwall and struggling Nottingham Forest. Not the the toughest of opponents at this level

    Meanwhile, Neil Warnock's Middlesbrough slumped to another defeat at Reading earlier today. Boro have won just one of their last seven Championship games - a 2-0 victory at Nottingham Forest.

    While the Championship looks weak this season, it seems the prehistoric football served up by Messrs McCarthy and Warnock is cutting little mustard.
    The game has moved on from the likes of this pair.

  20. #20

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Ok so answer me this. You keep knocking Tan so who would you want instead? Let's have some names
    Bob Grogan and Tony Clemo both kept our football club going through the bad times and the reality was there was nobody else out there prepared to invest in this club

    I was a young man when I took part in a clemo demo as it were at Ninian Park . In hindsight if it hadn't been for him we would have folded

    Tan is far from the perfect chairman and MM far from a great manager but what do people have an alternative , right now ?

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Bob Grogan and Tony Clemo both kept our football club going through the bad times and the reality was there was nobody else out there prepared to invest in this club

    I was a young man when I took part in a clemo demo as it were at Ninian Park . In hindsight if it hadn't been for him we would have folded

    Tan is far from the perfect chairman and MM far from a great manager but what do people have an alternative , right now ?
    Bill Gates- There's a stupid answer to a stupid question. It's not for fans to make the club attractive to prospective buyers or possess the contacts in order to bring in a new owner. Doesn't mean that they can't be critical.

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Bill Gates- There's a stupid answer to a stupid question. It's not for fans to make the club attractive to prospective buyers or possess the contacts in order to bring in a new owner. Doesn't mean that they can't be critical.
    Benny Hill

    Swipe away but it seems pointless wasting time on all this , results will be the factor and a couple of wins and whether people like it or not the club will feel vindicated if things stabilise

  23. #23

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927 View Post
    I'll admit I was one of the "if we're winning I don't care" brigade, but we've been found out big time over the last few matches. The lack of real quality in our squad is scary and we're now not even good at what we should be good at.
    Can you now see how short sighted that way of thinking is?

  24. #24

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    Ok so answer me this. You keep knocking Tan so who would you want instead? Let's have some names
    Some names?

    I just want our owner to realise that the people he puts in positions of power at this club are costing him far more to run this club than it should do. To realise that he should have had a far greater return on the money he has paid.

    Ridiculous to ask for names but let's go and get Man City's owners why don't we.

  25. #25

    Re: Tough times for the Dinosaurs

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Some names?

    I just want our owner to realise that the people he puts in positions of power at this club are costing him far more to run this club than it should do. To realise that he should have had a far greater return on the money he has paid.

    Ridiculous to ask for names but let's go and get Man City's owners why don't we.
    Write him a letter

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