Tough times for the Dinosaurs

[The Lone Gunman]

I didnt think we sacked him?

You're probably right, which further underlines how clueless Tan and his minions are. Whatever the actual circumstances of Warnock's departure, the fact is that he left while the team was on a significant downward spiral. No doubt the same will be true when he departs Middlesbrough, which may not be long the way things are going.

[Hilts]

Think Dalman said after Warnock resigned that he offered his resignation and Dalman tried to talk him into staying. How much of that was true and not just saying it I dunno, writing was on the wall.

Yeah I seem to remember that.

[stan butler]

Today's defeat was City's fourth in the last five league matches and let's be honest here - the team's performance in the first half of the one game they have managed to win recently was utterly awful.

Mick McCarthy's reign as Cardiff manager began brightly enough, but the team's record in the last 20 league games under him is as follows:

Won 6, drawn 7, lost 7.

The six teams City managed to beat during that run were Swansea, Wycombe, who are now in League One, a Birmingham side that was full of youngsters and reserves, newly-promoted Blackpool, draw specialists Millwall and struggling Nottingham Forest. Not the the toughest of opponents at this level

Meanwhile, Neil Warnock's Middlesbrough slumped to another defeat at Reading earlier today. Boro have won just one of their last seven Championship games - a 2-0 victory at Nottingham Forest.

While the Championship looks weak this season, it seems the prehistoric football served up by Messrs McCarthy and Warnock is cutting little mustard.

The game has moved on from the likes of this pair.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Ok so answer me this. You keep knocking Tan so who would you want instead? Let's have some names

Bob Grogan and Tony Clemo both kept our football club going through the bad times and the reality was there was nobody else out there prepared to invest in this club

I was a young man when I took part in a clemo demo as it were at Ninian Park . In hindsight if it hadn't been for him we would have folded

Tan is far from the perfect chairman and MM far from a great manager but what do people have an alternative , right now ?

[Tuerto]

Bob Grogan and Tony Clemo both kept our football club going through the bad times and the reality was there was nobody else out there prepared to invest in this club

I was a young man when I took part in a clemo demo as it were at Ninian Park . In hindsight if it hadn't been for him we would have folded

Tan is far from the perfect chairman and MM far from a great manager but what do people have an alternative , right now ?

Bill Gates- There's a stupid answer to a stupid question. It's not for fans to make the club attractive to prospective buyers or possess the contacts in order to bring in a new owner. Doesn't mean that they can't be critical.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Bill Gates- There's a stupid answer to a stupid question. It's not for fans to make the club attractive to prospective buyers or possess the contacts in order to bring in a new owner. Doesn't mean that they can't be critical.

Benny Hill

Swipe away but it seems pointless wasting time on all this , results will be the factor and a couple of wins and whether people like it or not the club will feel vindicated if things stabilise

[dembethewarrior]

I'll admit I was one of the "if we're winning I don't care" brigade, but we've been found out big time over the last few matches. The lack of real quality in our squad is scary and we're now not even good at what we should be good at.

Can you now see how short sighted that way of thinking is?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Some names?

I just want our owner to realise that the people he puts in positions of power at this club are costing him far more to run this club than it should do. To realise that he should have had a far greater return on the money he has paid.

Ridiculous to ask for names but let's go and get Man City's owners why don't we.

Write him a letter

[UNDERHILL1927]

Can you now see how short sighted that way of thinking is?

Not if it works mate. Teams can lose playing good football but there needs to be an ability to adapt to the situation, whatever the game throws at you.

[dembethewarrior]

Not if it works mate. Teams can lose playing good football but there needs to be an ability to adapt to the situation, whatever the game throws at you.

At our level we're gonna win and lose games, this hoofball "success" was never going to last. Surely its better to do it while watching better football? Long term, our first team playing like the younger teams will also make it easier to bring kids through.. Oh look.. Longtermism

[gabbsthenewt]

Bernard Arnault, Mukesh Ambani, Larry Ellison, Zhong Shanshan, Amancio Ortega, Colin Zheng Huang, Masayoshi Son, Dieter Schwarz, Wang Wei, Francois Pinault, Charles Koch, Daniel Gilbert, Ma Huateng, Steve Ballmer, etc, etc, etc.

How about Elon Musk? City could eventually become the first club managed from space.

He could at least pay for Dai Hunt to be the first Cardiffian in space, no return.

[Mr Soul '68]

He could at least pay for Dai Hunt to be the first Cardiffian in space, no return.

Dai was on the Sports phone in on BBC Radio Wales after the game yesterday. It's amazing how lucid he sounds away from the ground. He told an incredulous story of how he was speaking to Tomlin and Tomlin told him he'd never play for Mick McCarthy. By this, I think he meant McCarthy had told him, Tomlin, that he'd never play for the club again. The truth or bullsh*t ?

[2b2bdoo]

Dai was on the Sports phone in on BBC Radio Wales after the game yesterday. It's amazing how lucid he sounds away from the ground. He told an incredulous story of how he was speaking to Tomlin and Tomlin told him he'd never play for Mick McCarthy. By this, I think he meant McCarthy had told him, Tomlin, that he'd never play for the club again. The truth or bullsh*t ?

You don't have to look fat between the lines to know MM has no interest in using Tomlin.

[Mr Soul '68]

You don't have to look fat between the lines to know MM has no interest in using Tomlin.

Sadly, you are probably right. I just find it incredulous though that Tomlin would open up to Dai Hunt about the comings and goings on at the club. I guess Tomlin doesn't give a flying one....

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

At our level we're gonna win and lose games, this hoofball "success" was never going to last. Surely its better to do it while watching better football? Long term, our first team playing like the younger teams will also make it easier to bring kids through.. Oh look.. Longtermism

At which level don't teams "win and lose games"?

[Feedback]

Bernard Arnault, Mukesh Ambani, Larry Ellison, Zhong Shanshan, Amancio Ortega, Colin Zheng Huang, Masayoshi Son, Dieter Schwarz, Wang Wei, Francois Pinault, Charles Koch, Daniel Gilbert, Ma Huateng, Steve Ballmer, etc, etc, etc.

How about Elon Musk? City could eventually become the first club managed from space.

Helpful as that's where mick likes to play his football

[life on mars]

Dai was on the Sports phone in on BBC Radio Wales after the game yesterday. It's amazing how lucid he sounds away from the ground. He told an incredulous story of how he was speaking to Tomlin and Tomlin told him he'd never play for Mick McCarthy. By this, I think he meant McCarthy had told him, Tomlin, that he'd never play for the club again. The truth or bullsh*t ?

Dai or has Jason Mohammed called him (David ) also pointed out that Harris was sacked after 6 defeats, if David has spoken , and thinks Mick should go , the writing is very much on the wall for MM.

TBF I thought he spoke well ,he clearly loves the City .

[Mr Soul '68]

Dai or has Jason Mohammed called him (David ) also pointed out that Harris was sacked after 6 defeats, if David has spoken , and thinks Mick should go , the writing is very much on the wall for MM.

TBF I thought he spoke well ,he clearly loves the City .

I remember Dai Hunt from Whitchurch Comp '70-75. He was definitely David Hunt back in those days. I'm not sure when the name change occurred

[The Hooded Claw]

To be fair if a number of posters have been saying this for years and we've been nowhere near losing our place in the league, in fact we're usually flirting with the playoffs, then it shows that those posters were wrong doesn't it?

Not at all. We haven’t built the basis of sustainable success.

[The Hooded Claw]

Lyrics to Hello by The Beloved?

😂😂

[The Lone Gunman]

Warnock after Boro's defeat at Reading:

"It's terrible really. I've been in the game 42 years and this group of Championship referees at the minute is probably the worst I have ever come across."

Doesn't he say then same thing every year?

[dembethewarrior]

At which level don't teams "win and lose games"?

I had a point but its gone now...

[The Hooded Claw]

Is Tan the problem? Given that Dalman is the one resisting having a Director of Football, is it him and Choo that are stopping the club from progressing?
It might be that Tan being located the other side of the world with problems of his own (particularly at the present time) means that he’s trusting Dalman and Choo to take care of the club.
I don’t think he’s been that bad an owner and probably isn’t going anywhere, but a change of Dalman and/or Choo might be enough to see meaningful progress, plus would be a more realistic expectation. They’ve both been here a while, so hopefully they’ll be looking for the next challenge.

[dembethewarrior]

The question wasn't for you so just mind your business..

Can you bicker elsewhere.

[Cleve van Leef]

Why is there a need for a Director of Football? Surely a Manager with the right ideas would be the right way to go.