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Thread: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

  1. #26

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Throwing something at a pupil is a violent act, illustrating a lack of restraint and poor decision-making unbecoming of a teacher. Yes, most of us had worse, but that doesn't make it OK. Looking back, I can't believe the crass behavior of some of my teachers and the shitty example they set.
    I had the wooden board duster thrown at me , hitting me on the shoulder , steel rule slammed down on the table in front of me , wooden metre rule over knuckles ......that could have broken my fingers ......and the cane across the back of the legs

    It did nothing except make me more disruptive

  2. #27

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    getting a kid to pay attention for the next 20 minutes is not worth the downside which is potentially teaching them to use physical violence and intimidation to get what they want.
    Indeed

  3. #28

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    getting a kid to pay attention for the next 20 minutes is not worth the downside which is potentially teaching them to use physical violence and intimidation to get what they want.
    ......is the correct answer! Why didn't the Lecturer just wake the kid up gently, escort him off the premises and tell him not to return until he gets a good night's kip? Then soon after contact the parents and tell them he's not welcome until they help him to sort himself out. The world has turned many revolutions since we were at school.

  4. #29

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    ......is the correct answer! Why didn't the Lecturer just wake the kid up gently, escort him off the premises and tell him not to return until he gets a good night's kip? Then soon after contact the parents and tell them he's not welcome until they help him to sort himself out. The world has turned many revolutions since we were at school.
    He can't touch the students.

  5. #30

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Bet it was a bit of foolish fun gone wrong , that years ago everyone including the student would have a giggle , its like that rail guard incident in Swansea think she was student when he said hang on love let a man open hat door for you , and a sexism accusation was levelled ,the world has gone mad

  6. #31

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    He can't touch the students.
    Too right, he’d be in jail now let alone lose his job he had for 22 years…..I used to teach 20 years ago, saw the change occurring then and I had some really affected kids to look after who the main class teacher couldn’t cope with. There is no discipline anymore, a troublesome kid can get away with murder. I’m not saying the teacher should be able to use the kind of discipline they used to, it’s just escalates beyond and the kid gets removed from the class. No wonder so many are lost.

  7. #32

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Too right, he’d be in jail now let alone lose his job he had for 22 years…..I used to teach 20 years ago, saw the change occurring then and I had some really affected kids to look after who the main class teacher couldn’t cope with. There is no discipline anymore, a troublesome kid can get away with murder. I’m not saying the teacher should be able to use the kind of discipline they used to, it’s just escalates beyond and the kid gets removed from the class. No wonder so many are lost.
    are there more or less kids who end up removed from schools these days?

  8. #33

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    are there more or less kids who end up removed from schools these days?
    Probably more, I was responsible for one 10 yr old who was expelled from a few primary’s, none in Cardiff would touch him. Off to Greenhill he went. If you can’t discipline them, the teachers won’t want them disrupting the whole class will they? Maybe a current teacher on here can enlighten us.

  9. #34

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Need to add context to this :

    The lecturer is of 20 yrs experienced.
    He attempted to call his name twice .
    (Lightly ) lobbed cardboard.
    Student had hoody dragged down over his head .
    He was asleep.
    He woke bleary eyed .


    He didn't fire a missile Ffs .
    Bloody good lecturer lost .
    Hoody lad probably asleep now .

  10. #35

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    Black board rubber thrown at my head and pinned to the wall.
    Ah the good old days

  11. #36

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    There was a teacher in Penygawsi Primary School who used to give one kid “flying lessons”. This consisted of picking him up and launching him, aeroplane style across the desks.
    That was when my late sister was in his class (late 70s).
    I had him 5 years later and he slapped his hand down in the top of my head for kneeling up on a stool! Next thing, I knew, my mum was down at the school, shouting at the headmistress!

  12. #37

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I had the wooden board duster thrown at me , hitting me on the shoulder , steel rule slammed down on the table in front of me , wooden metre rule over knuckles ......that could have broken my fingers ......and the cane across the back of the legs

    It did nothing except make me more disruptive
    Me too. I had it all. Cane, ruler, board rubber, and various daps. I remember a kid getting hit in the head with a board rubber and being hurt pretty badly. Nothing even happened. The teacher just carried on.

  13. #38

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Need to add context to this :

    The lecturer is of 20 yrs experienced.
    He attempted to call his name twice .
    (Lightly ) lobbed cardboard.
    Student had hoody dragged down over his head .
    He was asleep.
    He woke bleary eyed .


    He didn't fire a missile Ffs .
    Bloody good lecturer lost .
    Hoody lad probably asleep now .
    You don't throw things at people to get their attention. What was stopping the teacher walking over to the kid? If a kid wanted to ask the teacher a question would throwing something at him be an appropriate way to get his attention?

  14. #39

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Did your teacher throwing things at you make you respect them? Genuine question.

    Personally, I had more respect for teachers who respected me and treated me like an adult compared to the ones who were arseholes.

  15. #40

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
    Interesting. You say the world was insane my view is the opposite. In our day there seemed a lot more respect than there is nowadays.
    In a day where respect was expected and somewhat enforced rather than earned. I actually disagree that there is less respect nowadays.

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    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Like many others the wooden chalkboard eraser was the weapon of choice at Llantwit comp.
    Additionally the ruler across the knuckles or being lifted by your hair were alternatives in the classroom.
    Then there was the cane which was administers by the deputy head who had a fearsome reputation.
    We thought we were hard done by until a couple of Scottish lads arrived and told us all about the strap.
    Now that sounded truly medieval.

  17. #42

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    In a day where respect was expected and somewhat enforced rather than earned. I actually disagree that there is less respect nowadays.
    I agree with this. I didn't feel respected and I didn't have any respect for many of my teachers. They didn't deserve it. They were petty, childish and bullies.

  18. #43

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Not directly related but when I was in my final year at college we went on a geography field trip ......to Majorca !

    There was a PhD student who was 3 years older than use and took us for some lectures who tagged along

    I was chatting up one of the ladies on the course as we shared a mutual love of heavy rock

    Anyway he starts giving me the stares and later in the evening comes over and headbutts me which didn't connect so I gave him a slap

    It turns out he and this student had been boffing and I was clearly on his Manor 👋

    Fecking teachers

  19. #44

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Not directly related but when I was in my final year at college we went on a geography field trip ......to Majorca !

    There was a PhD student who was 3 years older than use and took us for some lectures who tagged along

    I was chatting up one of the ladies on the course as we shared a mutual love of heavy rock

    Anyway he starts giving me the stares and later in the evening comes over and headbutts me which didn't connect so I gave him a slap

    It turns out he and this student had been boffing and I was clearly on his Manor ��

    Fecking teachers
    To be fair to the student he was perhaps applying some extra curriculum learning curves ??

  20. #45

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    You don't throw things at people to get their attention. What was stopping the teacher walking over to the kid? If a kid wanted to ask the teacher a question would throwing something at him be an appropriate way to get his attention?
    Ever chucked a beer mat for fun in a pub ?? I'm guessing this is where this act was ,world has gone mad , lose a job for that for someone who didn't even want to learn or look up , and someone wanted to teach him and has so been for 20 years all on taxes payer's money FFS .

  21. #46

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Ever chucked a beer mat for fun in a pub ?? I'm guessing this is where this act was ,world has gone mad , lose a job for that for someone who didn't even want to learn or look up , and someone wanted to teach him and has so been for 20 years all on taxes payer's money FFS .
    So you condone teachers or lecturers being able to throw things at learners? If you are happy with just a bit of cardboard, where does it stop?

  22. #47

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    To be fair to the student he was perhaps applying some extra curriculum learning curves ??
    I brushed it off

  23. #48

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    So you condone teachers or lecturers being able to throw things at learners? If you are happy with just a bit of cardboard, where does it stop?
    Just a cardboard, if he threw a large heavy object at the feckless student then its serious and wrong. Pathetic.

  24. #49

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Our games teacher used to pull the short hair, just in front of your ear, bloody painful. Chalk board rubbers & wooden rulers here as well.

  25. #50

    Re: Lecturer sacked for throwing cardboard at sleeping pupil

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Our games teacher used to pull the short hair, just in front of your ear, bloody painful. Chalk board rubbers & wooden rulers here as well.
    Games teachers were vile , ours introduced us to murder ball ,few bruised kids ,sadly the very teacher suffered a broken collar bone in one game , it was played with a large heavy leather ball in a gym , being smashed into the wooden climbing frames was so much fun, happy days.

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