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  1. #21

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    I have been thinking about this tonight,

    And to take a alternative viewpoint, one could argue that as of today the incredible wealthy regime exists wether you like it or not, so we have two options, either not engage and take a moral high ground, or let them get involved and try and influence change from example.

    Who knows maybe seeing women in high positions, LGBT campaigns, fans drinking and living liberally in our culture might slowly open minds, maybe not their current generation of rulers but their children and their children, maybe instead of shunning them, but leading by example, they might see some of the positives of western values.

    The other point is financial, not allowing them to purchase newcastle does not change how much wealth they have, but surely spending 100's of millions in the UK is money that is coming into our economy, instead of theirs, I would rather Mbape paying 40% tax in this country than in France or Spain.

  2. #22

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    My prediction is that the will come third next season........it's going to be a tough Championship again!

  3. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardiff55 View Post
    My prediction is that the will come third next season........it's going to be a tough Championship again!
    They'll have a new European manager soon. And two or three marquee signings come January. With more to come next summer. I don't expect to see them drop out of the EPL for a long, long time.

  4. #24

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    Will they ever win anything?

  5. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Will they ever win anything?
    Within the last ten years, Wigan and Leicester have won the FA Cup, Swansea have won the EFL Cup and Leicester have won the Premier League, while a mediocre Arsenal side has won the FA Cup three times, so there's no reason why Newcastle can't win something.

  6. #26

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    For half a century and more, Newcastle United have equalled cock up. That should change in the coming years, but are some clubs just destined to fall short continuously? Man City were that sort of club until around a decade ago, so it can be done, but I just wonder if Newcastle are forever destined to cock up?

  7. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    For half a century and more, Newcastle United have equalled cock up. That should change in the coming years, but are some clubs just destined to fall short continuously? Man City were that sort of club until around a decade ago, so it can be done, but I just wonder if Newcastle are forever destined to cock up?
    Chelsea were a fairly nondescript midtable club, but if i recall correctly (which is by no means guaranteed) they were more or less instantly elevated amongst the elite when the russian money arrived.
    Man City took a little bit longer to get to the top, it seemed they struggled to attract big signings as quickly, and there was one more big club up there in the form of Chelsea. Of course having all that money has to tell eventually.

    Newcastle are now trying to compete with Chelsea and Man City + the traditional big clubs, so it is already a more crowded scene, and at a time when even a newly promoted side can splash 100m on players and go straight back down. suspect that they may take that little bit longer to establish themselves at the top.

  8. #28

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    Chelsea were always going to attract players as they are London based, Man City not so much , and Newcastle - hardly an outpost of culture.

  9. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Within the last ten years, Wigan and Leicester have won the FA Cup, Swansea have won the EFL Cup and Leicester have won the Premier League, while a mediocre Arsenal side has won the FA Cup three times, so there's no reason why Newcastle can't win something.
    Going by your logic with wigan and Leicester, they could have already……they never seem too. I don’t even recall if they’ve made it to a cup final in the last 30 years? Have they? Or semi?

  10. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    For half a century and more, Newcastle United have equalled cock up. That should change in the coming years, but are some clubs just destined to fall short continuously? Man City were that sort of club until around a decade ago, so it can be done, but I just wonder if Newcastle are forever destined to cock up?
    Bit like us, even when we get a very wealthy owner we are still shiiiite

  11. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    Chelsea were always going to attract players as they are London based, Man City not so much , and Newcastle - hardly an outpost of culture.
    Come on, mbappe has always dreamed of playing for the geordie stripers since he was a young lad

  12. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Going by your logic with wigan and Leicester, they could have already……they never seem too. I don’t even recall if they’ve made it to a cup final in the last 30 years? Have they? Or semi?
    It's not my 'logic'. They were facts.

    Newcastle were FA Cup runners-up in 97/98 and 98/99. They finished as Premier League runners-up in 95/96 and 96/97, and finished third in 93/94 and 2002/03.

    The Manchester City comparison is a valid one. They had been nowhere near winning anything for decades until their current ownership took over.

  13. #33

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    It’s funny how they never question the Saudi regime when it comes to horse racing - the sport of kings, but a good working class game - the beautiful game as the fit and proper test..this deal should have gone through in 2017.

  14. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It's not my 'logic'. They were facts.

    Newcastle were FA Cup runners-up in 97/98 and 98/99. They finished as Premier League runners-up in 95/96 and 96/97, and finished third in 93/94 and 2002/03.

    The Manchester City comparison is a valid one. They had been nowhere near winning anything for decades until their current ownership took over.
    They had a good run mid 90’s I recall, was that with KK as manager?

  15. #35

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    A lot depends on who they install as manager and what players (if any) they can attract in January.
    Their fans will expect immediate results but it could still be a very long season for them trying to avoid relegation.

  16. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    They had a good run mid 90’s I recall, was that with KK as manager?
    93/94 and 95/96 - Kevin Keegan
    96/97 and 97/98 - Kenny Dalglish
    98/99 - Ruud Gullit
    02/03 - Bobby Robson

  17. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    I understand the hypocrisy but god I hope they get relegated
    I completely agree and it's not hypocrisy mate. Tan may have done a few dodgy deals but he hasn't funded Al Qaeda, bombed Yemen, chopped up journalists he doesn't like or beheaded homosexuals.

    The amount of whataboutery going on from Newcastle fans online is unbelievable. It's moral relativism at its worst.

  18. #38

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    Would be great if some Israeli businessmen took over Sunderland…

  19. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    Would be great if some Israeli businessmen took over Sunderland…
    Zionderland perhaps.

  20. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Zionderland perhaps.
    For younger viewers, this is the art of wit

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