Wilder up for the Charlton jobOriginally Posted by Hilts
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Wilder up for the Charlton job
We are in big trouble. We don't even have one player on form, not one of them is performing. That's a massive worry when everyone on the playing side of things is utter shite. Most teams at the bottom can say that there's at least one positive. We were shit before Mick arrived, but it seems like he's rinsed anything good out of this squad.
I thought there were more crumbs today than on Sunday. Good crumbs.
Who cares what Mick does though anyway, he’s on his way and these last few games have just been irrelevant.
What about little old ladies in small villages
we were in Southampton, stop off prior to the Portsmouth game, is this another Watford/Reading moment Grandad..?
There are accomplished managers and young managers available in other parts of the world who will become better than Wilder.
If your horizons stretch 300 miles or to people who have managed in the top two divisions in england over the last three or four seasons who aren’t gonna ask for huuge wages then yes, Wilder is the most realistic and appropriate option.
He’ll do a job and his football will be a lot more similar to that of the DJ era….he also seems like a decent person.
I would just love it if the club has the type of ambition that Leeds had when they went and got Bielsa. Or the type of gumption than Brentford have shown… something refreshingly un-cardiff. Or even give someone like Rowberry a shot.
I wouldn't be enamoured with Wilder being appointed.
Me neither. However, it's looking more and more probable that if we don't make a change soon we'll fall into the bottom three and struggle to get out. Again, Cardiff City has got itself into a great position, failed to capitalise and now we're desperate. MM was hired on a short term contract, did what was needed and gave the club the luxury of almost six months to find a suitable long-term replacement. The lazy, unimaginative short-termism the club has demonstrated since our most recent relegation is sickening.
7 in a row, Mick's a legend.
Can he make it 8 and claim a spot on his own in our record books?
While I agree, I just think he would be the best option in the circs. We're in freefall. We need action quickly or we'll be looking up at Derby.
Give em a chance.. They need support and encouragement and a bit of patience from us all.
Not saying you don't offer that, obviously an opinion on a game is what it is
Form can change quickly
unfortunately shit players under a shit manager can'tForm can change quickly
Neither would I. What is it about him that doesn’t float your boat?
I think it was the fallout of the second season in the premier league. Sheffield United were disastrous in every respect. So bad that they'd have struggled at championship level. For me, it sort of indicated that Wilder ran out of ideas very quickly and in a warnock kind of way, damaged irreparably any of the good work that he carried out, to the point that it could take sheffield united some time to recover. This may sound harsh, but a more sophisticated Warnock.
It is harsh. Sheffield United were in League One when Wilder took over, so they definitely benefitted from his time there even if they only manage to stay in the Championship.
Cardiff manager Mick McCarthy:
"It leaves me on the back end of a real horrible run of results. If football is true to its usual stuff, we know what happens - but I can't do anything about that.
"We've come back in off a bad defeat against Swansea, we've certainly had a better performance and I'll be doing exactly the same for Middlesbrough until I'm told differently.
"If we perform like that against other teams then we'll win games, but I'm afraid Fulham were too good and too strong for us."
Do the right thing and resign butty ….unless you’re totally skint….which you’re not.
At least we know we've got the support if we try and change things.
Word is he won't be here long.unfortunately shit players under a shit manager can't
I can't comment on the game as I didn't see it but there seemed to be positive changes and a few encouraging performances?
With you on MM he's done pointless keeping that conversation alive.
Am I right in thinking he was stubborn in his ways as well or am I remembering that differently?
He's obviously done well and could do a job here but I have lingering doubts. It's almost like it's impossible to to please us in this search.. I just don't want a carbon copy again, I am crying out for change.
He lost his way in the market, seemingly had no idea how to improve the side at that level and they ended up signing some stinkers. Maybe he was too loyal to the system and players that got Sheffield United to the PL and didn't want to rock the boat too much.
I'd take Wilder tomorrow if he was up for it, he's not exactly a young manager but he's not in the dinosaur category and I think he's less of a risk than going completely left-field and getting young progressive manager (I'd love us to move toward that eventually, but I don't think it's feasible with the squad we have right now). Priority has to be avoiding relegation this season and hopefully we can rebuild next season when a ton of contracts are up, I think Wilder is a good choice for that job.
I'm not really sure mate. Only going on how bad they were during the relegation season, and by god, it was bad. SU looked amateur on times. Maybe i'm being a bit harsh, (i am being harsh) but that was a fall from grace in my opinion. No issue with them being relegated, it's the way they were relegated. just my opinion.
He got them promoted without parachute payments and then kept them up by being innovative tatically. It just didn't work for them the second season, their defensive solidity seemed to disappear and they had nothing to offer up front. I'd like to see if he can recapture what he set up with SU. I can't see Flint or Morrison working as an overlapping Centre back, but we've seen McGuiness and Brown used as sort of wing backs, and we've seen pack used in the back line, so perhaps it isn't a million miles away
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