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    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You really are making a dick out of yourself here

    That song being sung gets heard by a young Indian lad working as a steward , he tells his mates , he and his mates don't come anymore

    Do you think Asian people should have to listen to this song at football or rugby matches ?

    Should they just ......toughen up ?

    You are an idiot
    why is this young hindu getting upset about a song about turbans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    no one has said anything of the sort. What has been said is that people need to stop being so bloody sensitive.
    A lot of people do but not I don’t think people receiving homophobic or racist abuse need to stop being sensitive.

    Do you? Or do you accept that not growing up a minority in a society where they receive a lot of abuse (often as shit banter) maybe we can’t appreciate why it is such a sensitive topic.

    Sometimes it’s just easier to hold your hands up and say I don’t understand it’s bad but after hearing feedback, from people who do, accept that homophobia and racism aren’t just banter in most situations .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    A lot of people do but not I don’t think people receiving homophobic or racist abuse need to stop being sensitive.

    Do you? Or do you accept that not growing up a minority in a society where they receive a lot of abuse (often as shit banter) maybe we can’t appreciate why it is such a sensitive topic.

    Sometimes it’s just easier to hold your hands up and say I don’t understand it’s bad but after hearing feedback, from people who do, accept that homophobia and racism aren’t just banter in most situations .
    where has there been homophobic and racist abuse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    no one has said anything of the sort. What has been said is that people need to stop being so bloody sensitive.
    Another reason for a gay footballer not to come out, anything they say about abuse will be met with “stop being so sensitive” from the banter brigade.

    Let’s be honest if you still can’t see why I’d rather wear a turban than a rose isn’t a good song to sing maybe the whole topic is a bit above you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Another reason for a gay footballer not to come out, anything they say about abuse will be met with “stop being so sensitive” from the banter brigade.

    Let’s be honest if you still can’t see why I’d rather wear a turban than a rose isn’t a good song to sing maybe the whole topic is a bit above you.
    because you can't win your argument with logic you resort to ad hominem. We got there in the end.

    and I never said it was a good song, or a bad song. my comment was that its not racist per se, the aim is to wind up the opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I can only hope you’re being sarcastic and aren’t this dense.
    He's shot himself in the foot

    It's clearly a racist chant

    He could easily put his hands up

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    He's shot himself in the foot

    It's clearly a racist chant, in my opinion

    He could easily put his hands up

    FYP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    because you can't win your argument with logic you resort to ad hominem. We got there in the end.

    and I never said it was a good song, or a bad song. my comment was that its not racist per se, the aim is to wind up the opposition.
    But it is racist, I don’t even understand how it’s an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    But it is racist, I don’t even understand how it’s an argument.
    you keep saying it is racist but you've not explained why.

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    Is Feedback defending "I'd rather wear a turban than a rose"?

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    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is Feedback defending "I'd rather wear a turban than a rose"?
    no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is Feedback defending "I'd rather wear a turban than a rose"?
    Yep because he first thought people were saying it’s racist because of the English part

    And then didn’t understand where it was saying England was bad.

    And the whole thread is him trying to dig himself out of that first hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    you keep saying it is racist but you've not explained why.
    It’s been explained in detail at least 10 times in this thread. I can’t believe it even needs to be explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    why is this young hindu getting upset about a song about turbans?
    Either you are being a arse or you need educating

    People with heritage from the Asian sub continent .......Indian people of Hindu, Sikh origin , Pakistani people of Muslim origin , Bangladeshis , Sri Lankan.....have always been lumped together as bloody Paksis ! .....it doesn't matter that they have different religions or customs or their grandfather's came from places thousands of miles apart........they are pakcis....they all look the same .....and the idiots who sing these songs are so ignorant they use a turban , worn by only a small minority of Asian people in this country to abuse them

    It's like the idiot saying he's going down the P shop , almost all P shops in the UK are owned by Indian people , its lazy racism

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Either you are being a arse or you need educating

    People with heritage from the Asian sub continent .......Indian people of Hindu, Sikh origin , Pakistani people of Muslim origin , Bangladeshis , Sri Lankan.....have always been lumped together as bloody Paksis ! .....it doesn't matter that they have different religions or customs or their grandfather's came from places thousands of miles apart........they are pakcis....they all look the same .....and the idiots who sing these songs are so ignorant they use a turban , worn by only a small minority of Asian people in this country to abuse them

    It's like the idiot saying he's going down the P shop , almost all P shops in the UK are owned by Indian people , its lazy racism
    you've garnered all of that from a song that has 9 words.

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    Absolutely mad but someone has even written an academic paper on whether it is racist

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...13320701658449

    Spoiler alert it is, have a read of that if you really cannot grasp why it’s racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Absolutely mad but someone has even written an academic paper on whether it is racist

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...13320701658449

    Spoiler alert it is, have a read of that if you really cannot grasp why it’s racist.
    are all academic papers the truth by default?

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    Lol does anyone remember when Baker introduced the first ever openly gay user to CCMB? It was very brave - true progress.

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    Do you think I’d rather be p*ki than a Turk is racist?

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    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Do you think I’d rather be p*ki than a Turk is racist?
    depends on whether you think either are somehow lesser than you. If you're racist, then you'll see it as a racist chant. But if you believe that all people, irrespective of race, colour or creed are equal, then how can it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    depends on whether you think either are somehow lesser than you. If you're racist, then you'll see it as a racist chant. But if you believe that all people, irrespective of race, colour or creed are equal, then how can it be?
    I suppose people could be singing it for the molody. What a waste of everyone's ****ing time you ****ing idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I suppose people could be singing it for the molody. What a waste of everyone's ****ing time you ****ing idiot.
    temper temper. if you can't construct an argument in a lucid and coherent manner then perhaps you should leave it to those of us who are a little more civilised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    depends on whether you think either are somehow lesser than you. If you're racist, then you'll see it as a racist chant. But if you believe that all people, irrespective of race, colour or creed are equal, then how can it be?
    It's not what "you" think, it's what the people who are singing it think.

    You've said before that you think everyone is equal, colours and creeds etc. Which is a fair enough viewpoint, most of us will agree.

    But by your logic, such a person cannot see the chant (or anything) as racist. So how would you be in a position to judge it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It's not what "you" think, it's what the people who are singing it think.

    You've said before that you think everyone is equal, colours and creeds etc. Which is a fair enough viewpoint, most of us will agree.

    But by your logic, such a person cannot see the chant (or anything) as racist. So how would you be in a position to judge it?
    I'm not. and unless you believe that some people are lesser than others, you won't be able to judge either. Now I know your not, but it begs the question why does Sludge (who openly admits he despises 17m residents of the UK) thinks this song is racist if he truly believes we are all equal then he must appreciate the song has no meaning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    I'm not. and unless you believe that some people are lesser than others, you won't be able to judge either. Now I know your not, but it begs the question why does Sludge (who openly admits he despises 17m residents of the UK) thinks this song is racist if he truly believes we are all equal then he must appreciate the song has no meaning
    So to acknowledge racism even exists, you have to accept that some people are better/lesser than others?

    What the hell are you on about?

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