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  1. #1

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    I have now unticked all the extra quotes

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    but you're not average adz, and you know more than most on the subject...so you know only too well that its not just brown people who wear turbans.
    But it is the average person who would sing the song. Probably most of those who sing it would have lower social capital than most and think brown people of all types and ethnicities wear turbans.

    They are the ones who are making the (implied) message.

  3. #3

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post


    Is singing a taunt regarding one ethnicity being more favourable (implied by the tone of the song better) than another one should they be put up for choice racist or not?

    Yes. End of. You came in the first instance asking me if signing it was racist, you had your answer and decided I had not been addressing your suggestion of singing but saying "So saying "I'd rather be Scottish than Irish" a sentence that isn't abusing either nationality, but is more positive to one than the other is racist." <- (not put as a question you drew this statement from what you had gathered from my answer specifically regarding singing it - when that content wasn't there).
    Yes, because the theme of the thread was literally singing songs...

    I then corrected it, which you seem to have ignored, because you're on the "team racist" side and singing (to you) makes it racist and I'm guessing saying it doesn't, as you don't seem to want to answer that one.

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Yes, because the theme of the thread was literally singing songs...

    I then corrected it, which you seem to have ignored, because you're on the "team racist" side and singing (to you) makes it racist and I'm guessing saying it doesn't, as you don't seem to want to answer that one.
    Corrected?

    You made the interactions:- .

    1st - Was the question is singing it racist......to which I said yes.

    2nd following my answer you made a statement not questioning me (no question mark involved) - "So saying "I'd rather be Scottish than Irish" a sentence that isn't abusing either nationality, but is more positive to one than the other is racist. " You followed the full stop by exclaiming that you would have had enough of the internet for the day if this is where it is.

    I responded to this by saying

    "You said you were singing it

    Sounds a bit odd to be singing it if it's not intended to cause offence, my dear."

    You then appeared to fail to accept you had said singing - responding to this "So saying"

    You now maintain I ignored a question which didn't exist.

    As you wish to have put that question to me and have had it answered (sorry please do so next time if you want an answer) - I'm afraid you do not supply enough further information with regard the "saying" of it - how is it being said, what is being said around it? Is it merely an expression of which one the person feels suits better in a hypothetical theoretical choice of ethnicity?

    Is the statement alone racist? No but the context in every occasion is individual.

  5. #5

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    This thread is unbelievable, one man make himself look a bit silly about misunderstanding the target of a song, then instead of holding his hands and laughing at himself about it spends the next 9 pages twisting himself in knots defending a song that is quite clearly racist even though he himself is not. There's some absolutely mad ones on this board
    …or he is on an absolute wind up and wallowing in the fact that he’s caught at least 3 whales from what I can read…🙄

    Assume there must be a few who are unfortunately unemployed.

    Very entertaining nevertheless… filled my entire lunch hour 🤣🤣🤣👍

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I’ve heard I’d rather wear a turban than a rose plenty of times with nothing happening.
    Not recently

  7. #7

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    Corrected?

    You made the interactions:- .

    1st - Was the question is singing it racist......to which I said yes.

    2nd following my answer you made a statement not questioning me (no question mark involved) - "So saying "I'd rather be Scottish than Irish" a sentence that isn't abusing either nationality, but is more positive to one than the other is racist. " You followed the full stop by exclaiming that you would have had enough of the internet for the day if this is where it is.

    I responded to this by saying

    "You said you were singing it

    Sounds a bit odd to be singing it if it's not intended to cause offence, my dear."

    You then appeared to fail to accept you had said singing - responding to this "So saying"

    You now maintain I ignored a question which didn't exist.

    As you wish to have put that question to me and have had it answered (sorry please do so next time if you want an answer) - I'm afraid you do not supply enough further information with regard the "saying" of it - how is it being said, what is being said around it? Is it merely an expression of which one the person feels suits better in a hypothetical theoretical choice of ethnicity?

    Is the statement alone racist? No but the context in every occasion is individual.
    I corrected myself, to ask "if it was said".

    A whole big portion of my day is being wasted here, I don't need a rundown of what was said, it's been said I can scroll up and read it.

    Thank you for putting the answer after that absolute titanic sized block of text. I now have an answer.


    Cheers.

    That wasn't hard was it.

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post

    That wasn't hard was it.
    That's what she said

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    That's what she said
    Short and sweet.

    Remember less is more, don't burn our eyes with paragraphs.

  10. #10

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    Not for me when people are trying to maintain things happened one way when they didn't. Sometimes people squirm out of what has been said to take advantage that it's pages back for someone to have to go read.

    Indeed some people put something like I'd sing then when quoted on it a few messages down quote other messages saying something different as if to conceal the singing was ever said.

  11. #11

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    On the show goes


    Zzzz

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    On the show goes


    Zzzz
    You can not watch the show if you want your free choice - Why don't you just switch off your pc/tablet/phone and go and do something less boring instead?

  13. #13
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by adz-a32 View Post
    But it is the average person who would sing the song. Probably most of those who sing it would have lower social capital than most and think brown people of all types and ethnicities wear turbans.

    They are the ones who are making the (implied) message.
    You think the average person would ding it?

  14. #14

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    You think the average person would ding it?
    Can you reword that question?

  15. #15

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    You can not watch the show if you want your free choice - Why don't you just switch off your pc/tablet/phone and go and do something less boring instead?
    I thought the whole point of messageboard/forums was to interact.

    I just interacted on one. Fascinating.

  16. #16

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I thought the whole point of messageboard/forums was to interact.

    I just interacted on one. Fascinating.
    You're the one who said ZZZ, and as you'd been attempting to instruct me with advice in the prior comment to that all I did was hear your zzzs and remind you an option given you are that tired was to switch off.

  17. #17

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    You're the one who said ZZZ, and as you'd been attempting to instruct me with advice in the prior comment to that all I did was hear your zzzs and remind you an option given you are that tired was to switch off.
    I'd previously mentioned your huge replies, you then replied again, hence the zzz as I was expecting more overly long replies.

    You don't half keep on it must be said, your wife must be impressed.

  18. #18

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I'd previously mentioned your huge replies, you then replied again, hence the zzz as I was expecting more overly long replies.

    You don't half keep on it must be said, your wife must be impressed.
    I'm like ****ing David Goggins mate I answer how I wish and I'm ****ing relentless. Will die that way too.

  19. #19

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    I'm like ****ing David Goggins mate I answer how I wish and I'm ****ing relentless. Will die that way too.
    I missed that part in the book I'll have to re read it.

    I thought "I do what I ****ing want when I want" was a Kevin quote.

  20. #20

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I missed that part in the book I'll have to re read it.

    I thought "I do what I ****ing want when I want" was a Kevin quote.
    It's ok some things sink in quicker for some people than others.

    You ever heard him discussing flipping the narrative - instead of listening to someone else's words and living by them, trying to fit in, he started looking at his own narrative and changing it - owning his mind and future and thoughts?

    If not I can't help you there.

    Dunno your Kevin reference

  21. #21
    Feedback
    Guest

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by adz-a32 View Post
    Can you reword that question?
    I meant sing, not ding.

    Apologies for the one single typo and the very obvious confusion it caused

  22. #22

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    I meant sing, not ding.

    Apologies for the one single typo and the very obvious confusion it caused
    I have doubts, hence why I said:

    “Probably most of those who sing it would have lower social capital than most and think brown people of all types and ethnicities wear turbans.”

    And with the bell curve, half of the people are less than average.

    But going back to the main point: the chant is problematic

  23. #23

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    Well two people have had an absolute leathering on here yet they keep coming back for more ....instead of just accepting they were wrong

    Are women like this on the Internet or is it just blokes ?

  24. #24

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt View Post
    It's ok some things sink in quicker for some people than others.

    You ever heard him discussing flipping the narrative - instead of listening to someone else's words and living by them, trying to fit in, he started looking at his own narrative and changing it - owning his mind and future and thoughts?

    If not I can't help you there.

    Dunno your Kevin reference
    Oh. You were flipping the narrative. Yes I recall that part.

    I just thought you were screaming out hard man quotes acting all Internet badboy. "o do what I want bruv"

    The condescending attitude doesn't suit you. You act all nice, but it's when you get slightly frustrated the mask starts to slip a little with little condescending lines. At least I'm consistent I suppose.

  25. #25

    Re: Professional footballer declares that he is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Oh. You were flipping the narrative. Yes I recall that part.

    I just thought you were screaming out hard man quotes acting all Internet badboy. "o do what I want bruv"

    The condescending attitude doesn't suit you. You act all nice, but it's when you get slightly frustrated the mask starts to slip a little with little condescending lines. At least I'm consistent I suppose.
    You don't know me son.

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