Have Villa got to be worried about relegation?

[The Lone Gunman]

Villa's board seem to think so.

[Ninian1962]

Villa's board seem to think so.

And rightly so Dave.

If they get relegated they are facing a huge financial penalty (and possible other sanctions such as transfer embargo and points deduction) from the EFL for breaches of financial fair play when they were in the Championship which couldn`t be imposed because they got promoted to the Premier but will be if and when they get relegated again to the EFL .

[Eric the Half a Bee]

And rightly so Dave.

If they get relegated they are facing a huge financial penalty (and possible other sanctions such as transfer embargo and points deduction) from the EFL for breaches of financial fair play when they were in the Championship which couldn`t be imposed because they got promoted to the Premier but will be if and when they get relegated again to the EFL .

So there are no penalties for breaching FFP if a side wins promotion until they are relegated again? Surely that does little to discourage breaches of FFP....

[Ninian1962]

So there are no penalties for breaching FFP if a side wins promotion until they are relegated again? Surely that does little to discourage breaches of FFP....

Agreed. The problem is caused by having the two sets of football organisations setting two varying sets of rules and not being able to control clubs not in its own organisation.

You are right about the lack of discouragement. In fact it encourages clubs to take greater financial risks in their efforts to reach the riches of the Premier League when , of course, not all of them can.

The most recent club who received a deferred punishment on relegation back to the Championship was QPR who faced a fine of around £50m. The EFL then bottled it and significantly reduced the fine if Tony Fernandez put more shares into the club and then even allowed the remaining fine to be paid off over ten years. Unbelievable and "toothless" as a punishment

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Agreed. The problem is caused by having the two sets of football organisations setting two varying sets of rules and not being able to control clubs not in its own organisation.

You are right about the lack of discouragement. In fact it encourages clubs to take greater financial risks in their efforts to reach the riches of the Premier League when , of course, not all of them can.

The most recent club who received a deferred punishment on relegation back to the Championship was QPR who faced a fine of around £50m. The EFL then bottled it and significantly reduced the fine if Tony Fernandez put more shares into the club and then even allowed the remaining fine to be paid off over ten years. Unbelievable and "toothless" as a punishment

And I dare say the PL has no interest in working with the EFL on this as clubs who give the 'v' sign to FFP and win promotion are likely to be bigger players in the PL after promotion, strengthening the PL in the process.