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    Grandfather waits 13 hours for ambulance after stroke


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    Re: Grandfather waits 13 hours for ambulance after stroke

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Yes, I can see another lockdown happening if the NHS is under this much pressure from people being seriously ill from Covid and a lack of staff because they have to isolate.

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    It's awful but wasnt there anyone they know who could have helped and driven them to hospital?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    It's awful but wasnt there anyone they know who could have helped and driven them to hospital?
    I often think that too but there are times when that is not possible or even inadvisable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    I often think that too but there are times when that is not possible or even inadvisable.
    yeah maybe getting him safely downstairs would have been difficult. as surely anyone who could make their own way would be doing that when they were initially told it would be 5-8 hours

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    my Father had a stroke while at a family christening, I drove him straight up the Heath, who waits 13 hours, any neighbour would surely help out in that situation, I know I would, time is critical in these situations and is the difference between a full recovery (as in my Father's case) or a vegetative state for the remainder of life..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    yeah maybe getting him safely downstairs would have been difficult. as surely anyone who could make their own way would be doing that when they were initially told it would be 5-8 hours
    Early intervention when having a stroke is crucial to a better recovery. It's a tricky one without knowing the full circumstances but it should be considered. Maybe the 999 operators advised them what to do for the best whilst waiting.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Yes, I can see another lockdown happening if the NHS is under this much pressure from people being seriously ill from Covid and a lack of staff because they have to isolate.
    I spent yesterday morning in Radiology at UHW having a brain MRI. The nurse who fitted my cannula for one of them had been working in casualty and I had a long chat with her and a number of other medical staff in neurology. Everyone of them was furious with GPs for not seeing patients who were clogging up emergency services. I asked if this was due to COVID and was told it's a small % and that most of the problems were down to people turning up because they can't see a GP and get a straightforward script or referral to a specialist.

    I was really shocked but this came from 5 different, independent sources. I was also told that 70% of serious cases had no beds yesterday and I kid you not 'don't get ill and need emergency services'. Scary stuff.

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    It doesn't help that people use ambulances like taxis and phone 999 for every little thing.
    If as it should be and used as an emergency service then more ambulances would be freed up to help this poor chap.
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    My aunt waited over 10 hours a few months ago for an ambulance. It’s a shocking situation.

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    There’s a ridiculous situation that if your able to get to the hospital yourself then when you arrive your not classed as priority.
    (You think your doing the right thing here).

    If can wait and arrive by ambulance then you have a better chance. That’s if the ambulance can get you into the hospital doors that it is.

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    My old man had a stroke a couple of years ago and the only reason he’s ok now is the injection they have to give in the first 4 hours. Waiting that long is crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splott-light... View Post
    my Father had a stroke while at a family christening, I drove him straight up the Heath, who waits 13 hours, any neighbour would surely help out in that situation, I know I would, time is critical in these situations and is the difference between a full recovery (as in my Father's case) or a vegetative state for the remainder of life..
    It's a terrible situation when you don't know how long before an ambulance arrives. Someone with a stroke needs clot buster drugs within 4 hours. I find it hard to believe that in an advanced country like ours 999 calls can take 13 hours to respond. The NHS has lost the plot, and at the end of it all they say is 'sorry'.

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    Crazy to
    Think the amount of money that was thrown at this pandemic and where it has ended up.
    We can’t get basic services right.

    How is it that a GP surgery is Monday to Friday 8-5pm?
    Do they not think that people don’t get ill over the weekend, or just need to see doctor for reassurance outside of those bourse - well they do they go to A&E and clog that up so the real emergencies suffer.

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    My old dear with dementia fell over and broke her hip in February

    I waited 9 hours for an ambulance from the Princess Of Wales , Bridgend

    Covid has had a huge effect on the NHS , its always been overstretched but its beyond breaking point

    I was getting a phonecall every hour hoping they were on their way but they were phoning to apologise for the waiting time . Its not their fault though .

    I asked about pain relief and all they suggested was paracetamol so I thought bollocks to this and used my extra strong gp only Co codomol 15 mg tablets for my back

    My old dear was in great pain and it kept her comfortable

    When the paramedics turned up they were fine and didn't give me Ballache, they just asked when the last dose was and put her on the gas

    If we want a better health service it's got to be paid for , it's no good complaining about the Welsh govt , it's the Tories in London that control the money .

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    Re: Grandfather waits 13 hours for ambulance after stroke

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Yes, I can see another lockdown happening if the NHS is under this much pressure from people being seriously ill from Covid and a lack of staff because they have to isolate.
    This problem existed before the pandemic, although Covid has clearly exacerbated it. I can remember a story about a cyclist involved in a crash who was left lying in the road for hours because an ambulance wasn't available. Now the same thing is happening to stroke victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    My old dear with dementia fell over and broke her hip in February

    I waited 9 hours for an ambulance from the Princess Of Wales , Bridgend

    Covid has had a huge effect on the NHS , its always been overstretched but its beyond breaking point

    I was getting a phonecall every hour hoping they were on their way but they were phoning to apologise for the waiting time . Its not their fault though .

    I asked about pain relief and all they suggested was paracetamol so I thought bollocks to this and used my extra strong gp only Co codomol 15 mg tablets for my back

    My old dear was in great pain and it kept her comfortable

    When the paramedics turned up they were fine and didn't give me Ballache, they just asked when the last dose was and put her on the gas

    If we want a better health service it's got to be paid for , it's no good complaining about the Welsh govt , it's the Tories in London that control the money .
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/h...light-21894695

    A&E waiting times in England are in the spotlight - but they are longer in Wales

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    Unfortunately the only way I see the NHS going is becoming a minimum fee based service, there is no way it can continue to survive when people don't want to pay 45% of their wages in taxes to improve services and on the other side have people blatantly abusing the system, going to get prescriptions of paracetamol that cost the NHS 5 quid when they could buy it for 30p in a shop. Obviously these are examples but introduce a minimum fee for things and watch the demand drop, if people even had to pay 5 pounds for a doctors appointment they would never go when all they have is a running nose. If something is free people will take it regardless of if they will need/use it.

    I love the free at the point of access health care, it's incredible but relies on people only using it when they really need it.

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    Re: Grandfather waits 13 hours for ambulance after stroke

    Quote Originally Posted by Wozza16 View Post
    Unfortunately the only way I see the NHS going is becoming a minimum fee based service, there is no way it can continue to survive when people don't want to pay 45% of their wages in taxes to improve services and on the other side have people blatantly abusing the system, going to get prescriptions of paracetamol that cost the NHS 5 quid when they could buy it for 30p in a shop. Obviously these are examples but introduce a minimum fee for things and watch the demand drop, if people even had to pay 5 pounds for a doctors appointment they would never go when all they have is a running nose. If something is free people will take it regardless of if they will need/use it.

    I love the free at the point of access health care, it's incredible but relies on people only using it when they really need it.
    That sort of thing will be difficult to manage but it's going to happen . Free at the point of need will soon be gone .

    And it will be means tested .

    Emergency medicine will be as it is but seeing GPS, seeing specialists will , if you have income over a certain level , be have to be paid for

    It's not right , people will miss out and fall through the net but I am afraid that it's going to happen .

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