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Thread: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

  1. #21

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    I remember Dyche moaning about refs and var too. They all do it. Ranieri had a good moan after the Arsenal game and he seems like one of the most affable managers going.

  2. #22

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    Liverpool just had a 25 match unbeaten run. Impressive with a poor defence!

  3. #23

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluebirds17 View Post
    It's both self intitlement and belief. Whilst you need to have a strong mentality to be a winner (see Ronaldo) alot of these side see every game as a divine right for them to win.
    If you want to win the League, every game is a must-win until the league is won. That's just how it is now. The top three managers in the league are all the same. As were the top managers that came before them.

  4. #24

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    If you want to win the League, every game is a must-win until the league is won. That's just how it is now. The top three managers in the league are all the same. As were the top managers that came before them.
    True. Liverpool lost the league with 97 points a couple of seasons ago, which would have walked it any other year.

  5. #25

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Tuchel and Klopp are winners. They probably take losing personally and find it difficult not to show their emotions at times. It's served them both pretty well in fairness. I wonder what they'd be like if they were more pragmatic in defeat? Maybe they'd lose that edge.
    This is exactly right, people are born with the winning mentality ( its hard to teach / coach into people )
    Klopp wants to win every game, that is exactly what makes him who he is, if he came out with " Are well, we will dust ourselves down and go again next week " what message would that send to his players. ? ? ?

    Sav in that Macc documentary showed he wants to win, yes he could have sat in the stand and watched his players put 1/2 a shift in, but its not him, so he is charging down to the touchline shouting coaching advice

  6. #26

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    Besides being of German descent, what have these two got in common ? Both of them are not gracious enough when their teams donít win,and should give more credit to the opponents. Chelsea failed to beat Burnley, even though they had enough chances to win three games. Tuchel then went public saying Burnley were lucky and didnít deserve the draw. Following that immature outburst , Klopp then blamed the referee for not giving a foul on his goalkeeper when West Ham scored from a corner kick. Klopp obviously saw the incident very clearly from 60 yards away through a group of players ,in the crowded penalty area. Why donít these so called elite managers just say their team werenít quite good enough on the day ?
    In kloppís case, his defence was poor without Van Dijk. Now heís back, itís still poor. Nothing has changed at all. Still very vulnerable in the air, especially from set pieces. Thatís what he should be thinking about, instead, like his German counterpart, blaming everyone else except themselves. These minor teams ARE allowed to get a decent result now and again, when itís least expected.
    You claim Chelsea should've won the game three times over, but say Tuchel has no class for saying as much?

    Totally agree about Klopp though, he's so complimentary of the opposition when they win and a sour prick when they lose. Pep is gracious in defeat.

  7. #27

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    Cardiff connections, albeit tenuous:
    Klopp was born in Stuttgart, Cardiff's twin city
    Tuchel's first senior club as a player was Stuttgart Kickers.
    'Ave it!

  8. #28

    Re: Tuchel and Klopp- no class at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Cardiff connections, albeit tenuous:
    Klopp was born in Stuttgart, Cardiff's twin city
    Tuchel's first senior club as a player was Stuttgart Kickers.
    'Ave it!
    Hmmm interesting.

    I think I know where you're going with this TBG... if results continue for Liverpool it might be worth us waiting a little while before appointing anyone 🤔

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