INSIDE THE SOUTH WALES DERBY

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sludge must be taking a beating in this thread if he, who talks in the most unglamorous way possible about how he likes his football, is having to rely on the “glamour” of the Premier League to back up his argument - he sounds like one of those annoying media types who thinks records set in the old First Division are worthless and obsolete these days

On the contrary

Some people THINK that football started in 1993

What did start was clubs getting huge coverage and lots of wedge

Swansea City have managed to get 6 years in that limelight , we have had two single seasons

And Swansea have won the old league Cup

The argument as to who is the most successful team in recent times in South Wales is surely not even up for debate .

[the other bob wilson]

On the contrary

Some people THINK that football started in 1993

What did start was clubs getting huge coverage and lots of wedge

Swansea City have managed to get 6 years in that limelight , we have had two single seasons

And Swansea have won the old league Cup

The argument as to who is the most successful team in recent times in South Wales is surely not even up for debate .

It’s an over simplification, but, I’d say that the following is essentially true regarding City and the jacks in the Premier League era - we were both as bad as each other from 1993 onwards, we were better than them in the noughties and they were better than us in the last decade, while in this decade, we finished above them once, they finished above us once and, although it’s early days yet, look like doing so again this season.

You said Swansea have been the dominant side in Wales for “the last decade at least”. I’d agree with you about the last decade, but it’s much more arguable when it comes to the “at least” part - certainly, any comparison which includes the pre Premier League period as well has to have us as the dominant side.