Gerrard to Villa- big mistake

[Ivortheengine]

Like Eddie Howe up on Tyneside, Gerrard will be under huge pressure from the start to make an improvement. Basically, he’s on a hiding to nothing. Winning the Scottish Premier League is no big deal. I could have taken Rangers to the title with the squad they’ve got, especially with only one other serious challenger, who were miles behind at the finish. Villa are in free fall right now , losing 5 on the trot, and to arrest that situation will be a big challenge. Villa are a big club, with big expectations, and will be looking for an improvement immediately. Since Grealish left for the Etihad, they’ve spent a lot of money, and had little reward for their investment.I don’t envy Gerrard, and if I was a Villa fan , i’d Just be hoping they could stay in the Premier League. To me, that would be a success.

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I think he'll do really well there, I think he'll turn results around quite quickly and end up building a decent team

[Citizen's Nephew]

I think he'll do really well there, I think he'll turn results around quite quickly and end up building a decent team

Me too. I like Gerrard. Would have loved him to come to us. We're raving about Morison but he's even less experienced (not having a go at Morison). I can't stand Liverpool or Villa but I'm interested to see how he does. Do well, and he's nailed on for the Liverpool job. He's a legend there.

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Me too. I like Gerrard. Would have loved him to come to us. We're raving about Morison but he's even less experienced (not having a go at Morison). I can't stand Liverpool or Villa but I'm interested to see how he does. Do well, and he's nailed on for the Liverpool job. He's a legend there.

I read his autobiography and liked him as a player so followed his career in Scotland more than I would usually, was curious to see how he'd do as a manager because he was a born winner as a player.

I don't know for sure how he'll do outside of Scotland of course but seems to have the right combination of respect in the game, winner's attitude and from what I've read about him up there, thoroughness of preparation that good managers have so I think it's a good appointment.

* cut to Aston Villa relegated by Christmas *

[Citizen's Nephew]

I read his autobiography and liked him as a player so followed his career in Scotland more than I would usually, was curious to see how he'd do as a manager because he was a born winner as a player.

I don't know for sure how he'll do outside of Scotland of course but seems to have the right combination of respect in the game, winner's attitude and from what I've read about him up there, thoroughness of preparation that good managers have so I think it's a good appointment.

* cut to Aston Villa relegated by Christmas *

I've got such a backlog of reading but I will, one day, read his autobiography too. Yes, I'm genuinely interested to see how it goes.

[Jimmy the Jock]

I've got such a backlog of reading but I will, one day, read his autobiography too. Yes, I'm genuinely interested to see how it goes.

Top book , top guy .
What he did at Rangers was an incredible feat ( if you don't understand Scottish Football ,why comment as if you do ? )Rangers fans will be forever grateful.
He will do well at Villa , of that , I am sure .

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

I read his autobiography and liked him as a player so followed his career in Scotland more than I would usually, was curious to see how he'd do as a manager because he was a born winner as a player.

I don't know for sure how he'll do outside of Scotland of course but seems to have the right combination of respect in the game, winner's attitude and from what I've read about him up there, thoroughness of preparation that good managers have so I think it's a good appointment.

* cut to Aston Villa relegated by Christmas *

Not quite sure about that Delmbox. 17 seasons as a player at liverpool saw 1 Champions league, 2 FA cups, 3 league cups, 1 UEFA Cup, 1 Super cup. Not in any way a bad return. But not quite Born winner material. Great team leader and all that, but for a player of his ability and notoriety the Trophy cupboard was lacking. IMO the Villa job has come a season or two too early. But i completely understand why he has taken it.
Spedger

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Not quite sure about that Delmbox. 17 seasons as a player at liverpool saw 1 Champions league, 2 FA cups, 3 league cups, 1 UEFA Cup, 1 Super cup. Not in any way a bad return. But not quite Born winner material. Great team leader and all that, but for a player of his ability and notoriety the Trophy cupboard was lacking. IMO the Villa job has come a season or two too early. But i completely understand why he has taken it.
Spedger

In an often average Liverpool team, and how many times did he drag them to those victories. If he'd have left to go to a Chelsea or Man Utd he'd have stacks of trophies. The only player to score in an FA Cup, League Cup, Champions League and UEFA Cup final, the guy's a winner.

[NYCBlue]

Me too. I like Gerrard. Would have loved him to come to us. We're raving about Morison but he's even less experienced (not having a go at Morison). I can't stand Liverpool or Villa but I'm interested to see how he does. Do well, and he's nailed on for the Liverpool job. He's a legend there.

I don't think being a legend at Liverpool counts for as much as it did in years gone by. When Liverpool look to replace Klopp it will be with the very best option available. And if that isn't Gerrard, and I very much doubt it will be, he won't get the job.

[Citizen's Nephew]

I don't think being a legend at Liverpool counts for as much as it did in years gone by. When Liverpool look to replace Klopp it will be with the very best option available. And if that isn't Gerrard, and I very much doubt it will be, he won't get the job.

Well, we'll have to disagree on this one which is all cool BTW. I like a good footie discussion. I agree with you about the legend aspect though and 'pool wanting the best (Klopp has been amazing for them). But I can't help thinking about Klopp starting out at a struggling Mainz before ending up at Dortmund. What he did at Mainz was pretty amazing but it took time. His gegenpress style has been very successful and great to watch. The article in yesterday's Guardian was very snidey about Gerrard's time at Rangers which surprised me.

It's at least made a league I loathe most of the time a bit more interesting to me.

[Ivortheengine]

Why do you think that ?

I think he'll do really well there, I think he'll turn results around quite quickly and end up building a decent team

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I think he'll do really well there, I think he'll turn results around quite quickly and end up building a decent team

Never let my football judgement be questioned again

[Ivortheengine]

Never let my football judgement be questioned again

A few games in, that’s all. Not a bad start, but today’s opposition looked like they first got together half hour before the kick off. I think I could have scored against them to be honest. Rogers has his work cut out ,getting them somewhere near the form that led them to s place higher up the table. Let’s see where the6 are at the end of April. Can’t understand why the same players couldn’t play like that for Dean Smith. I would have given the goal that was disallowed for kicking it out of Schmeichel’s hand. Nothing wrong with it.

[Jimmy the Jock]

A few games in, that’s all. Not a bad start, but today’s opposition looked like they first got together half hour before the kick off. I think I could have scored against them to be honest. Rogers has his work cut out ,getting them somewhere near the form that led them to s place higher up the table. Let’s see where the6 are at the end of April. Can’t understand why the same players couldn’t play like that for Dean Smith. I would have given the goal that was disallowed for kicking it out of Schmeichel’s hand. Nothing wrong with it.

Other than it was against the rules.
No perfectly good goal.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Never let my football judgement be questioned again

[PhyllisStant]

It's a funny appointment for me. As you say they are in free fall and in neither his playing or managerial career does he have any experience of this. I'm not say he won't do well but it's a bit of a gamble for a club who are only 2 points above the drop.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Like Eddie Howe up on Tyneside, Gerrard will be under huge pressure from the start to make an improvement. Basically, he’s on a hiding to nothing. Winning the Scottish Premier League is no big deal. I could have taken Rangers to the title with the squad they’ve got, especially with only one other serious challenger, who were miles behind at the finish. Villa are in free fall right now , losing 5 on the trot, and to arrest that situation will be a big challenge. Villa are a big club, with big expectations, and will be looking for an improvement immediately. Since Grealish left for the Etihad, they’ve spent a lot of money, and had little reward for their investment.I don’t envy Gerrard, and if I was a Villa fan , i’d Just be hoping they could stay in the Premier League. To me, that would be a success.

Maybe many Villa fans think like you do in your last sentence and that he is therefore not on a hiding to nothing.

[2b2bdoo]

It will be interesting, media seem to rave about what he has done at Rangers. No doubt he has done well but this is a new ball game.

[Trigger]

I'm not sure he even needed to take the step to Villa to one day land the Liverpool job.

Would have gained experience at a decent club, plenty of other club legends walk into the managers job with similar or less. Even without rangers he'd always have doors open to him at Anfield.

Can only assume the SPFL is quite boring after a while and the money and challenge is alluring.

[2b2bdoo]

I'm not sure he even needed to take the step to Villa to one day land the Liverpool job.

Would have gained experience at a decent club, plenty of other club legends walk into the managers job with similar or less. Even without rangers he'd always have doors open to him at Anfield.

Can only assume the SPFL is quite boring after a while and the money and challenge is alluring.

That’s true, maybe he felt he needed the challenge before taking the Liverpool job. Maybe they just offered him a load of money

[Citizen's Nephew]

Can only assume the SPFL is quite boring after a while and the money and challenge is alluring.

This.

[Hilts]

Premier League with a big club like Villa or the SPL with 4 big matches a season.

Time to move on.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

Me too. I like Gerrard. Would have loved him to come to us. We're raving about Morison but he's even less experienced (not having a go at Morison). I can't stand Liverpool or Villa but I'm interested to see how he does. Do well, and he's nailed on for the Liverpool job. He's a legend there.

Are Cardiff fans really "raving" about Morison? I think there's been some encouraging signs, but I don't think many are going overboard, just yet.

[JamesWales]

Obviously I have no idea about the details or how happy Gerrard is in Glasgow etc, but, I'd have stayed. I think he's made an error.

Rangers are a huge club, albeit in a weak league, so he wouldnt want to stay forever. However, this season they will quite likely win the league, thus cementing his legacy, they could win the SFA cup (not since 2009) or the league cup (not since 2011) and get out of the group stage of the Europa league.

Then take his pick in England.

Villa, I dunno...bit of a poisoned chalice for me.

[WJ99mobile]

He's clearly done very well at Rangers. Regardless how small people believe the league to be, on the face of it he couldn't have done hell of a lot more.

A risk for Villa but I wouldn't write him off. I'd certainly take him here