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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    There must be some pretty major reasons. Two that I'd imagine is language and friends/family already here
    Exactly that according to this - https://inews.co.uk/news/migrants-wh...51?ITO=newsnow

  2. #2

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Easy life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Easy life.
    bollocks

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    Hmmm, if I was living under a bridge with rats to keep me company, would I be thinking of the quality of French sport, the sophisticated bars and buildings, the beautiful country side and maybe, just maybe, a chateau if I work hard enough and the French property market levels out? Add to that, a biffing accent that makes the ladies quiver.
    Or would I be thinking of getting to a country with a sizeable community from my culture, country or surrounding countries with the chance of a bed and the opportunity to earn a few quid on the black market. It's a difficult decision.

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    That’s an interesting read Undercoverinwurzelland
    It answers a lot of questions
    Still though it says fifty percent have no family ties here
    It’s really sad that these cast outs are unwanted- I say cast out because the Syrian despot Assad is a genicidal maniac and can understand them fleeing
    Where do you stop though
    That’s the conundrum the politicians are politicking over
    Who does what to help?

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    That’s a fair shout Lardy and I completely agree with everything you’ve just said
    My late grandmother lived on a farm in Upper Boat (where Tesco is now) and took in evacuated children so I get what you’re saying
    It’s the fact that France has offered sanctuary
    Why carry on your journey?
    France is a great country
    Why risk death by drowning?
    That’s the question NOBODY can answer

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnysideup View Post
    That’s the question NOBODY can answer
    Err I think quite a few people have answered it on this thread

  8. #8

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    No there's not plenty of room for them.....especially when they all want to live in Westminster.
    Bloody Tory MPs

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Why do refugees and asylum seekers want to come to the West? Because ANYWHERE is better then where they're coming from. Why do they want to come to the UK? It's a combination of a tolerant population, the English language, ease of finding work, and family.

    You'd think with present labour shortages that the UK would want migrants to come here, to do the jobs the East Europeans used to do, but the government set their stall out at the last election, as regards immigration, and probably feel reluctant to change tack, and start welcoming them instead. My thoughts are that actually, most people have no objections to immigrants coming here to work, and this idea that Brexit was a racist vote is far from the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    Why do refugees and asylum seekers want to come to the West? Because ANYWHERE is better then where they're coming from. Why do they want to come to the UK? It's a combination of a tolerant population, the English language, ease of finding work, and family.

    You'd think with present labour shortages that the UK would want migrants to come here, to do the jobs the East Europeans used to do, but the government set their stall out at the last election, as regards immigration, and probably feel reluctant to change tack, and start welcoming them instead. My thoughts are that actually, most people have no objections to immigrants coming here to work, and this idea that Brexit was a racist vote is far from the truth.
    I disagree , the animosity towards refugees and anyone entering the country is higher than its ever been

    It used to be just far right football idiots but now everyone seems to be wading in

    In my opinion

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I disagree , the animosity towards refugees and anyone entering the country is higher than its ever been

    It used to be just far right football idiots but now everyone seems to be wading in

    In my opinion
    except the majority on this thread who it would appear are rather welcoming of those wishing to come here and make a life for themselves.

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    They haven’t Delmbox
    Family ties aside
    What possible reason would a sane person have in making a perilous sea crossing in an overcrowded rubber dingy armed with the knowledge many have drowned before them when France HAVE OFFERED sanctuary/ safe haven whatever you want to call it.
    Is the UK a better country to live in or are these desperate people brainwashed with propaganda that the UK is utopia?

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnysideup View Post
    They haven’t Delmbox
    Family ties aside
    What possible reason would a sane person have in making a perilous sea crossing in an overcrowded rubber dingy armed with the knowledge many have drowned before them when France HAVE OFFERED sanctuary/ safe haven whatever you want to call it.
    Is the UK a better country to live in or are these desperate people brainwashed with propaganda that the UK is utopia?
    Well no, you can't "put family ties aside" then say there's no answer. It doesn't work like that.

    "Berlin aside, no one has an idea what the capital of Germany is"

    See how it works?

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnysideup View Post
    They haven’t Delmbox
    Family ties aside
    What possible reason would a sane person have in making a perilous sea crossing in an overcrowded rubber dingy armed with the knowledge many have drowned before them when France HAVE OFFERED sanctuary/ safe haven whatever you want to call it.
    Is the UK a better country to live in or are these desperate people brainwashed with propaganda that the UK is utopia?
    Maybe possibly the latter

    It isn't obviously a utopia

    But Germany , France , Belgium , Holland etc are democratic ....ish , Liberal.....ish places compared to parts of the Middle East for example

    I think the problem is people cannot see the difference between people crossing the channel , illegal immigrants , immigrants and people who are not European but have been born and brought up here

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by Feedback View Post
    except the majority on this thread who it would appear are rather welcoming of those wishing to come here and make a life for themselves.
    Well that's this one thread , it's hardly representative

    You could go on other related forums and the difference is clear

    And social media in general

    This country has shifted to the right especially in terms of this topic

  16. #16

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Of course it does Delmbox
    Read the blurb Undercoverinwurzelland took the time to find and post on this thread
    An interesting read from the refugee council
    Family ties the Asylum seekers already have here in the UK
    That’s their motivation to come here
    I get that point
    You obviously don’t

  17. #17

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    The fact they don’t know the name of a particular capital city in any given country is irrelevant

  18. #18

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    Jesus Christ. I'm out

  19. #19

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    I don't understand why some people don't just say "I don't want foreigners in my country" instead of trying to hide their xenophobia under a load of "reasons" why they shouldn't come here.

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I don't understand why some people don't just say "I don't want foreigners in my country" instead of trying to hide their xenophobia under a load of "reasons" why they shouldn't come here.
    But Aussies, Canadians and Yanks are welcome coz they are a bit like us.

  21. #21

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    But Aussies, Canadians and Yanks are welcome coz they are a bit like us.
    And most people here illegally are not from Syria,etc. They're from Australia/New Zealand/South Africa, who have let their work pass run out and stayed on.

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    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    And most people here illegally are not from Syria,etc. They're from Australia/New Zealand/South Africa, who have let their work pass run out and stayed on.
    Bollocks….where did you get that info? Why would an Ozzie for ie want to stay here?

  23. #23

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Bollocks….where did you get that info? Why would an Ozzie for ie want to stay here?
    fc6.jpg

  24. #24

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Bollocks….where did you get that info? Why would an Ozzie for ie want to stay here?
    Whilst figures are sketchy, i believe a home office report or FOI request a few years back had India, China, Australia, and America as the leading origins of undocumented people in the UK.

  25. #25

    Re: Why wouldn’t Asylum Seekers….

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Bollocks….where did you get that info? Why would an Ozzie for ie want to stay here?
    Don't know what "for ie" means, but basically, it's not asylum seekers getting smuggled in who are the big problem. This might be the study that I had read, reported elsewhere:

    "Unauthorized immigrants are non-EU-EFTA citizens who entered the UK without permission and have an unlikely path to permanent residency. The population also includes those who may have entered lawfully but overstayed a visa. Asylum seekers waiting for a final decision in their case are included in the unauthorized immigrant population estimates. Their future status is uncertain as rejection rates are high."

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/f...nited-kingdom/

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