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Thread: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

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    Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    The whole series of 'Culture Wars' on Radio 4 have been excellent but this episode (broadcast just minutes ago and available via the following link) takes the biscuit. It's just half an hour long.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00120vp

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The whole series of 'Culture Wars' on Radio 4 have been excellent but this episode (broadcast just minutes ago and available via the following link) takes the biscuit. It's just half an hour long.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00120vp
    is that the Jon Ronson one? I've been meaning to listen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    is that the Jon Ronson one? I've been meaning to listen
    Indeed it is. It's shocking in a way one may not expect.

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Iíve been listening to it and have been meaning to mention it. Itís well worth a listen, I thought the abortion one was crazy.

    I like all of Ronsonís stuff, some of his books are great.

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    All bollocks, no doubt. We've been here before, both in the US and the UK.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic

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    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    All bollocks, no doubt. We've been here before, both in the US and the UK.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic
    Rather than me adding a spoiler I would recommend lending it an ear.

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The whole series of 'Culture Wars' on Radio 4 have been excellent but this episode (broadcast just minutes ago and available via the following link) takes the biscuit. It's just half an hour long.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00120vp
    Iíve just listened to the 3rd episode about the televangelist and the HIV positive priest. Really interesting episode, that Tammy came across as a pretty amazing woman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I’ve just listened to the 3rd episode about the televangelist and the HIV positive priest. Really interesting episode, that Tammy came across as a pretty amazing woman!
    Yes, that one was really interesting too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Yes, that one was really interesting too.
    Iíve just finished the satanist one, absolutely mad that it ended up being the longest and most expensive case in US history.

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    finally got around to starting this. Ronson is excellent at this kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    finally got around to starting this. Ronson is excellent at this kind of thing.
    He is, I could listen to him talk about stuff like this all day.

    Heís done some good books too, and does the reading for the audiobooks. Youíve been publicly shamed, psychopath test and Lost at Sea are well worth a listen.

    Lost at sea is especially good as itís a lot of his old columns. Even manages to make deal or no deal sound interesting

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    Ronson is from Cardiff, although he couldn't wait to move away. Didn't enjoy his time at Cardiff High.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Ronson is from Cardiff, although he couldn't wait to move away. Didn't enjoy his time at Cardiff High.
    Talks about it briefly in one of his books, got really badly bullied apparently.

    His parents were English anyway so I donít think he really considers himself welsh either.

    Also played keyboards for Frank Sidebottom which surprised me.

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The whole series of 'Culture Wars' on Radio 4 have been excellent but this episode (broadcast just minutes ago and available via the following link) takes the biscuit. It's just half an hour long.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00120vp
    It's interesting that in different cultures, it emerges in various forms - (including witchcraft, voodoo and freemasonry) - but will always come down to the influence of dark spirits - here is one example of voodoo jumping across the Ocean and forming a tragic combination of confusion known as "Voodoo-Catholicism" > The core belief of New Orleans Voodoo is that one God does not interfere in daily lives, but that spirits do. Connection with these spirits can be obtained through various rituals such as dance, music, chanting, and snakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    It's interesting that in different cultures, it emerges in various forms - (including witchcraft, voodoo and freemasonry) - but will always come down to the influence of dark spirits - here is one example of voodoo jumping across the Ocean and forming a tragic combination of confusion known as "Voodoo-Catholicism" > The core belief of New Orleans Voodoo is that one God does not interfere in daily lives, but that spirits do. Connection with these spirits can be obtained through various rituals such as dance, music, chanting, and snakes.
    I take it from your screed above that you haven't actually listened to the programme

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    It's interesting that in different cultures, it emerges in various forms - (including witchcraft, voodoo and freemasonry) - but will always come down to the influence of dark spirits - here is one example of voodoo jumping across the Ocean and forming a tragic combination of confusion known as "Voodoo-Catholicism" > The core belief of New Orleans Voodoo is that one God does not interfere in daily lives, but that spirits do. Connection with these spirits can be obtained through various rituals such as dance, music, chanting, and snakes.
    Absolutely nothing to do with the episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Absolutely nothing to do with the episode.
    He doesn't appreciate the irony concerned

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I take it from your screed above that you haven't actually listened to the programme
    Yes I have, and I can see why you all love him, as his liberal views and scathing attitude towards anyone with a hint of morality or respect for the almighty is going to earn him more followers each week. I agree that the case he highlights was crazy, immoral and contrived; yet so were the actions against a host of well known stars including Cliff Richard & Paul Gambaccini, however just because we know of such innocent yet wrongly accused individuals, we shouldn't assume that nothing at that level is happening, and the likes of Jimmy Savile was also a figment of someones imagination!
    You will recall his comment about some americans acknowledging a 'higher being' - yet people can do that without any reference to God whatsoever; and the declaration for freemasons entering their craft is just that, which is fitting because it fits the luciferian practices therein.
    As for the drinking of blood, I agree this really sounds bizarre, but it wouldn't take you or anyone else more than 15 minutes online to learn about many people that we've both heard of who have done this.

    As for the media clips, keep them coming, I welcome all information both light and dark (wait for the Brains comment)

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Yes I have, and I can see why you all love him, as his liberal views and scathing attitude towards anyone with a hint of morality or respect for the almighty is going to earn him more followers each week. I agree that the case he highlights was crazy, immoral and contrived; yet so were the actions against a host of well known stars including Cliff Richard & Paul Gambaccini, however just because we know of such innocent yet wrongly accused individuals, we shouldn't assume that nothing at that level is happening, and the likes of Jimmy Savile was also a figment of someones imagination!
    You will recall his comment about some americans acknowledging a 'higher being' - yet people can do that without any reference to God whatsoever; and the declaration for freemasons entering their craft is just that, which is fitting because it fits the luciferian practices therein.
    As for the drinking of blood, I agree this really sounds bizarre, but it wouldn't take you or anyone else more than 15 minutes online to learn about many people that we've both heard of who have done this.

    As for the media clips, keep them coming, I welcome all information both light and dark (wait for the Brains comment)
    I wouldn't say he has a scathing attitude towards the people he features at all, quite the opposite in fact, he seems to go out of his way to genuinely try to understand their motivation and see their point of view, which is why he is so disarming (one of the reasons) and why his interviewees seem to open up to him so readily. he could so easily do a stitch up job on these people but you can see he genuinely tries to get the whole picture.

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    Re: Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Yes I have, and I can see why you all love him, as his liberal views and scathing attitude towards anyone with a hint of morality or respect for the almighty is going to earn him more followers each week. I agree that the case he highlights was crazy, immoral and contrived; yet so were the actions against a host of well known stars including Cliff Richard & Paul Gambaccini, however just because we know of such innocent yet wrongly accused individuals, we shouldn't assume that nothing at that level is happening, and the likes of Jimmy Savile was also a figment of someones imagination!
    You will recall his comment about some americans acknowledging a 'higher being' - yet people can do that without any reference to God whatsoever; and the declaration for freemasons entering their craft is just that, which is fitting because it fits the luciferian practices therein.
    As for the drinking of blood, I agree this really sounds bizarre, but it wouldn't take you or anyone else more than 15 minutes online to learn about many people that we've both heard of who have done this.

    As for the media clips, keep them coming, I welcome all information both light and dark (wait for the Brains comment)
    I don't 'love' the broadcaster. I was simply very interested in a most incredible miscarriage of justice for which the police were partly complicit.
    I'm not particularly interested in continuing the 'God debate' with you personally as I am fully aware of your position (and which I find incredibly ludicrous). I merely thought that some posters on here may be interested in the broadcast concerned for a variety of reasons, most of them not being religion at all.

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