Margaret Hodge Steps Down

[life on mars]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59508501

[jon1959]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hodge

She was effective as the Chair of the Public Accounts Committee.

She was appalling in her handling of the child abuse scandal in Islington, her dog whistle racism that boosted the BNP in Barking (and false claims about her role in defeating them in the 2010 election - others did the work), and her willingness to invent or amplify claims of antisemitism in order to get Jeremy Corbyn out of the Labour leadership (including antisemitic attacks on 'the wrong type of Jews'). If Labour applied its rules equally and fairly Hodge should have been suspended in 2018. Instead she was canonised by the national media and the majority of the PLP - and a couple of over active posters on here.

Good riddance in my view.

[life on mars]

In my book she was much more loyal and a better servant to Labour than Corbyn. Corbyn damaged the party not Hodge .

[Dorcus]

Glad she's out of the way

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

A second rate Barbara Castle

[life on mars]

A second rate Barbara Castle

She had a good soul and served the party for a very long time ( 56 years ) and born form Jewish refugee parents.

I liked the quote below yes she could have easily walked a long time ago .

I do admire that fighting spirit , especially within a party will strangely has never elected a females leader which ,never mind one of Jewish heritage , it has always baffled me .


""Margaret Hodge is asked about Luciana Berger's claim that the Labour Party is institutionally anti-Semitic.

The Jewish Labour MP said she has been in the party 56 years and she was a "fighter" who was not going to give up when Politics Live presenter Andrew Neil asked her why she was still in the party.""

[jon1959]

She had a good soul and served the party for a very long time ( 56 years ) and born form Jewish refugee parents.

I liked the quote below yes she could have easily walked a long time ago .

I do admire that fighting spirit , especially within a party will strangely has never elected a females leader which ,never mind one of Jewish heritage , it has always baffled me .


""Margaret Hodge is asked about Luciana Berger's claim that the Labour Party is institutionally anti-Semitic.

The Jewish Labour MP said she has been in the party 56 years and she was a "fighter" who was not going to give up when Politics Live presenter Andrew Neil asked her why she was still in the party.""

Margaret Hodge was a poisonous Blairite hypocrite.

Luciana Berger's claim is nonsense - runs counter to the findings of the Home Office Select Committee, the Chakrabarti Report, the EHRC Report and all the allegation and investigation evidence that has come out from the Legal & Governance Unit.

In fact most of the high profile allegations of antisemitism against Labour members turned out to be unfounded (after the mud had stuck and the press had moved on) although sometimes changed to 'bringing the Party into disrepute' as a replacement catch-all charge. There were and are instances of antisemitic behaviour or on line activity - but according to the all-party MP group at a lower level than society in general, and at a lower level than on the right of the political spectrum.

Ed Miliband was of Jewish heritage and he was elected Labour leader! His father Ralph was subjected to anti-semitic press attacks, led by the Daily Mail, who went on (with hypocrisy to match Hodge) to play a leading role in the 'antisemitism crisis' constructed around Corbyn and Labour.

Labours failure to ever elect a female leader is indeed a source of embarrassment if not shame. But not Hodge.

[life on mars]

Margaret Hodge was a poisonous Blairite hypocrite.

Luciana Berger's claim is nonsense - runs counter to the findings of the Home Office Select Committee, the Chakrabarti Report, the EHRC Report and all the allegation and investigation evidence that has come out from the Legal & Governance Unit.

In fact most of the high profile allegations of antisemitism against Labour members turned out to be unfounded (after the mud had stuck and the press had moved on) although sometimes changed to 'bringing the Party into disrepute' as a replacement catch-all charge. There were and are instances of antisemitic behaviour or on line activity - but according to the all-party MP group at a lower level than society in general, and at a lower level than on the right of the political spectrum.

Ed Miliband was of Jewish heritage and he was elected Labour leader! His father Ralph was subjected to anti-semitic press attacks, led by the Daily Mail, who went on (with hypocrisy to match Hodge) to play a leading role in the 'antisemitism crisis' constructed around Corbyn and Labour.

Labours failure to ever elect a female leader is indeed a source of embarrassment if not shame. But not Hodge.

Yes you keep telling yourself there was no antisemitism on Corbyn's watch as leader .

Ask yourself why does the current leadership excepts its EXISTENCE AND EHRC independent findings , and why is Corbyn still suspended are they all part of your ever revolving Daily Mail conspiracy theory, you will be telling us next the EHRC are part of the evil Daily Mail axis , and they all report to some upper supreme society .

And Chakrabarti conveinant see nothing report into antisemitism was a classic Corbyn move that soon saw her in the House of Lords , oh yes cronyism rewards exists everywhere , yep straight out of the Tory playbook but delivered by the hypocritical Corbyn.

[jon1959]

Yes you keep telling yourself there was no antisemitism on Corbyn's watch as leader .

Ask yourself why does the current leadership excepts its EXISTENCE AND EHRC independent findings , and why is Corbyn still suspended are they all part of your ever revolving Daily Mail conspiracy theory, you will be telling us next the EHRC are part of the evil Daily Mail axis , and they all report to some upper supreme society .

And Chakrabarti conveinant see nothing report into antisemitism was a classic Corbyn move that soon saw her in the House of Lords , oh yes cronyism rewards exists everywhere , yep straight out of the Tory playbook but delivered by the hypocritical Corbyn.

I said there was antisemitism ‘on Corbyn’s watch’. So did he. Corbyn also accepted the EHRC report. You seem to have an equal problem with words and with facts.

It is also clear from this and your previous posts that you have not read either the EHRC or the Chakrabsrti reports.

[Dorcus]

Yes you keep telling yourself there was no antisemitism on Corbyn's watch as leader .

Ask yourself why does the current leadership excepts its EXISTENCE AND EHRC independent findings , and why is Corbyn still suspended are they all part of your ever revolving Daily Mail conspiracy theory, you will be telling us next the EHRC are part of the evil Daily Mail axis , and they all report to some upper supreme society .

And Chakrabarti conveinant see nothing report into antisemitism was a classic Corbyn move that soon saw her in the House of Lords , oh yes cronyism rewards exists everywhere , yep straight out of the Tory playbook but delivered by the hypocritical Corbyn.

I'm sure you've heard of pragmatism LOM! Lots and lots of people resort to it, particularly politicians.

[life on mars]

I'm sure you've heard of pragmatism LOM! Lots and lots of people resort to it, particularly politicians.

Knew it existed in Tory land , personally upsetting to see it exist in a Labour party , thought it was more of an inclusive party ,how wrong one can be bugger pragmatism and fairness .

[life on mars]

I said there was antisemitism ‘on Corbyn’s watch’. So did he. Corbyn also accepted the EHRC report. You seem to have an equal problem with words and with facts.

It is also clear from this and your previous posts that you have not read either the EHRC or the Chakrabsrti reports.

And you clearly can't stop defending them , after countless suspension , resignations , TV investigations why oh why ?????

I presume from this you can forgive Boris then his behaviours as leader , as you clearly are forgiving of Corbyn a a leader .

Remind me why he is still suspended ????


Equalities and Human Rights Commission published its report, saying Labour had broken the law,

The Commission put some of the blame on "serious failings" under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership of the party.

[jon1959]

And you clearly can't stop defending them , after countless suspension , resignations , TV investigations why oh why ?????

I presume from this you can forgive Boris then his behaviours as leader , as you clearly are forgiving of Corbyn a a leader .

Remind me why he is still suspended ????


Equalities and Human Rights Commission published its report, saying Labour had broken the law,

The Commission put some of the blame on "serious failings" under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership of the party.

I will defend the Labour Party from false allegations of antisemitism (as many of them were) and condemn the real examples of which there were too many. I have bothered to read the relevant reports and also a lot of the published information on allegations, investigations, suspensions and final outcomes. You have not. Most of the press coverage is as inaccurate and lazy as your posts. A large number of allegations were in response to criticism of Israeli war crimes, its official state ideology, defence of Palestinian rights, and comments on the scale of the real problem in the Labour Party - and that covers most of the high profile cases that got press coverage.

You are right in what you now say about the EHRC report - but I cited it to counter your support of Luciana Berger's claim that Labour is/was 'institutionally racist'. The EHRC report never said that. It did conclude that Labour under Corbyn had broken the law (in which case it has continued to do so under Starmer) but also acknowledged that some of the 'interference' from the leader's office was to speed up slow-timed investigations and that some of the process discrimination was suffered by members who were accused of antisemitism.

Corbyn is still suspended from the PLP (not the Labour Party) for factional reasons. There is no other justification.

I have said many times that I think Corbyn was a flawed leader with weaknesses, and he brought some of the crisis on himself by the way he handled it. But he is not an antisemite. Many of his critics are.

Jewish Voice For Labour is a network for socialist and antiracist Jews in the Labour Party, formed in 2017 and with several hundred members. It currently has 11 executive members, 10 of whom have been suspended or investigated for alleged antisemitism (two executive members recently died whilst still suspended). Jewish members of the Labour Party have been targeted and harassed much more than non-Jews through this crisis - and in almost every case it comes down to anti-Zionism being equated with antisemitism. The irony being that argument (equating the interests and identification of Jewish people anywhere in the world with the State of Israel) is itself antisemitic!

There are and were antisemites in the Labour Party. They should be thrown out. But the 'antisemitism crisis' is about something entirely different.

[life on mars]

Labour got found out lets move on.

[Dorcus]

LOM doesn't do analysis, let's move on and consign Margaret Hodge to history.

[life on mars]

LOM doesn't do analysis, let's move on and consign Margaret Hodge to history.

nope fact Equalities and Human Rights Commission published its report, saying Labour had broken the law.

Keir Starmer Has Apologised To The Jewish Community Following A Damning Anti-Semitism Report On A "Day Of Shame" For Labour

Equality and Human Rights ; Our investigation found that the Labour Party has committed unlawful acts



Formby “The Party does not have the same detailed breakdowns of figures for the period before 2018 as a comprehensive central complaints system was not in use.”

Conveniently Labour gave an account to the EHRC, which says the party “was not able to confirm the number of complaints made, or action taken on antisemitism complaints, until 2018 when it started to record this data”.

Yep lets avoid it and not record anything , Tory playbook stuff ,at least the current Labour leadership recognises the reality and facts and wants to fix it , speaks volumes.

[jon1959]

nope fact Equalities and Human Rights Commission published its report, saying Labour had broken the law.

Keir Starmer Has Apologised To The Jewish Community Following A Damning Anti-Semitism Report On A "Day Of Shame" For Labour

Equality and Human Rights ; Our investigation found that the Labour Party has committed unlawful acts



Formby “The Party does not have the same detailed breakdowns of figures for the period before 2018 as a comprehensive central complaints system was not in use.”

Conveniently Labour gave an account to the EHRC, which says the party “was not able to confirm the number of complaints made, or action taken on antisemitism complaints, until 2018 when it started to record this data”.

Yep lets avoid it and not record anything , Tory playbook stuff ,at least the current Labour leadership recognises the reality and facts and wants to fix it , speaks volumes.

I thought you were going to move on, but you decided to come back with another garbled pick 'n mix of distortions.

For what it's worth the Legal & Governance Unit of the Labour Party was dominated by anti-Corbyn staff throughout this period, but the beginning of a more effective recording and prompter investigation began in 2018 in response to interventions (criticised by the EHRC and the anti-Corbyn chorus) by Corbyn's office. He got a lot wrong but not that. However, the investigations continue to be a farce under Starmer and Evans - as a cursory glance at the cases made public will show. They are the subject of a new complaint to the EHRC from many of those falsely accused!

If you would bother to read some of this stuff you wouldn't have to rely on tabloid headlines for all your opinions!

Are you still baffled why the Labour Party never elected a leader of Jewish heritage?

Anyway, you got it wrong again, so let's move on.

[life on mars]

Labour are as guilty as charged those who can't see it are part of that very problem .

[jon1959]

Labour are as guilty as charged those who can't see it are part of that very problem .

So you think the executive of Jewish Voice For labour are antisemites? OK.

Are you still baffled why the Labour Party never elected a leader of Jewish heritage?


Look in the mirror for the problem!

[Dorcus]

Labour are as guilty as charged those who can't see it are part of that very problem .

You need to read and digest more and not rely upon right wing propaganda to influence your thinking. Come on, you can do it if you try 👍

[life on mars]

You need to read and digest more and not rely upon right wing propaganda to influence your thinking. Come on, you can do it if you try 👍

Keep up the denial , its all part of the problem .

[Dorcus]

Keep up the denial , its all part of the problem .

No denial at all; it's just that the truth is nowhere near as dramatic as the propaganda paints.

[life on mars]

No denial at all; it's just that the truth is nowhere near as dramatic as the propaganda paints.

if you say so

[Dorcus]

if you say so

Thanks LOM I knew deep down you'd agree 👍

[life on mars]

Thanks LOM I knew deep down you'd agree ��

You can rest assured we have nothing to agree on .

I think in question deserves more respect and those who jibe at her do the lady a disservice and her 56 years of work for the Labour party puts us all to shame .

She doesn't the vitriol .