Is anyone surprised the disorder at Wembley happened the way it did on the day of the Euro final?
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Is anyone surprised the disorder at Wembley happened the way it did on the day of the Euro final?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59518850
It's a terrible read, and I feel really bad especially for the kids. That day should have been the best in their childhood, win or lose, and instead it was terrifying.
Why do you ask about being surprised? To me, it was way beyond what I may have expected and I'm not sure the authorities take a great deal of blame.
I always get the feeling if you step out of line at football these days you are in serious bother…..weird how there was so little police and security, at a final no less.
They need to treat this as a society issue and not just a football issues because this same behaviour had happened at other types of events.
Some people think they can do what they want.
Surely the time of kick-off was wrong - all day on whatever got you "off yer face"?
Classic case of a perfect storm coming together really. Certainly a product of lockdown etc.
Although football safety has vastly improved, it goes to show that at pressure points (entrance / exit points mainly) we could still see stuff go seriously wrong.
Lucky noboday died seems to be a common feeling.
Maybe it's a good thing that the world cup will be in Qatar next year.
If England get to the final it will be interesting to see how they behave out there. Otherwise they may return home missing a couple of limbs
All three probably. I think we can all understand how it could happen though. Summer Sunday, no football for 18 months, long day on the piss, chance to win something for the first time in 50 years, loads of booze, excitement building, no fan zones in central london, more booze, knowledge there are 30,000 physically empty seats, inexperienced stewarding....these things escalate.
That's not to excuse it at all, I can just see how it emerged.
Wouldn't have happened in normal times and wouldn't have happened if stadium had been totally empty either.
Surprised at the enormity of disorder tbh.
Obviously well organised.
Where was the intelligence?
The response from the authorities on the day was too little too late. Police tried to give people the opportunity to enjoy a good day out, thinking a carnival atmosphere eould ensue, but yet again the drinking culture, immaturity and the ability of people just to enjoy themselves was too much. The lack of fan zones played a massive part and I think the structure of the tournament played its part in that.
Will 1 game behind closed doors be a suitable punishment and deterrent- I doubt it.
Liverpool fans acting pissed up and drunk ......oh Hillsborough was their fault
Wembley lot acting pissed up , causing carnage all day ......luckily nobody was killed ......move along nothing to see here
Sludge it's all to easy to get pissed or just play up at events then blame the police or stewards when it goes wrong.
If fans had abided by the rules at Hillsborough and Wembley there is a good chance both would not have happened.
I remember seeing fans breaking into Edgar Street and Brenford with lots of others without tickets if something had happened it was the fans who were to blame but no doubt people would say the gates should have had a stronger lock or more police/stewards behind them..
If people behaved then most bad outcomes won't happen.
Of course. I went on to expand upon what I meant in a second post.
I think booze fuelled a lot of it, but the fact they knew the ground physically had 20-30000 empty seats was the main reasoning for what happened, otherwise we would see that specific behaviour at lots of big games. Fact is of they got inside they could blend in. Can't do that normally.