Reply With QuoteBecause Boris lied to them . Stop Immigration , Get Brexit Done , Invest in the North , Lots of money into poor areas , NhSOriginally Posted by goats
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honestly, I am wasting my time here it seems
it wasn't a lecture, it was a fairly decent chat, we were the last tour he was doing that day, he showed us where to hang our headlights and we walked out to the center grass bit together chatting, in fact I remember him saying to my daughters " imagine what it would be like coming to the surface and seeing the sun after a shift on the face " ( of course that might not have happened either as he might have been a ginger and scared of the sun ), as it happens, I said to him " we are of for a coffee, fancy a cuppa to end your day ", he thanked me but declined the offer
how we got onto the closures we were just chatting about what it meant to valleys communities, when he said he wasn't unhappy that it closed and his son wouldn't follow him and his fathers foot steps, I said I was surprised by that and always thought the miners were hard done by and shafted by Maggie, which he then said his opinion wasn't uncommon and all his workmates thought the same
( of course I should have called him out on it and asked him for proof incase someone from cowbridge doubted me in a few years )
Because Boris lied to them . Stop Immigration , Get Brexit Done , Invest in the North , Lots of money into poor areas , NhS
You are not kidding me
My son told me he didnt want to work the way I had over the years . I have mostly been behind a desk running my company for the last 30 years .
I actually agree with him. quality of life is so much more important than the dollar..
Unfortunately I had to live my life to realise that.
Other than Blairs years I can only remember Tory governments for the last 40 years.
Boris wasn't that good surely?
I am not surprised you can only remember tory governments as you voted for them
Runs off into other room , waiting for bang !
you have surely had a decent life though haven't you ? ? ?
That's very true but in the mining villages there was very little alternative employment . There is and was a case for social employment ......its better than having everyone on benefits .....which Thatcher actually encouraged to take people's eyes off the unemployment figures
the Older miners were given roughly 3 years pay as redundancy payments falling to the younger miners who had worked a few years getting about 1 years money
** these figures are from my memory of the display at the big pit and might not pass your stringent fact checking tests
Is that what that Thatcher woman you fancy told you ?
Do you work for Conservative Central Office ?
I have had an amazing full life, able to do things I could only have dreamed of.( I even have private number plates)
But I did spend a lot of my time working 60 plus hours a week .
It wasn't really a moan , more an understanding that there is another way .
When my kids take over I don't want them doing 60 plus hours a week .
Why have you got to be a cock ?
How I vote and my political persuasion is f uck all to do with you.
Only an idiot would tar anyone with a brush on a political decision.
I have had an amazing full life, able to do things I could only have dreamed of.( I even have private number plates
But I did spend a lot of my time working 60 plus hours a week .
It wasn't really a moan , more an understanding that there is another way .
When my kids take over I don't want them doing 60 plus hours a week .
I always thought you were fairly happy from posts on here and when we have exchanged messages
It’s rife on here jimmy….
Funny how people still put thatcher = 2021 tories
It Was 40 years ago
Don’t use socialism as a derogatory term.
The new free school meals idea is socialist but helping the lower middle the most. It’s a great idea.
We should all be striving for a more socialist country but in a way that’s more fair than “tax the rich” slogan crap
Well I have clearly struck a nerve
You are the one who says you vote tory
Expect to have the piss taken out of you if you are a Scottish bloke living in Wales voting tory
Enjoy your retirement you miserable old git
Christ here's another one
Jimmy meet goats , two Tories
Pritti Patel , a complete right wing hang em high tory and a very powerful woman is a huge Thatcher fan as is Boris and most of his hangers on
It's worse now
Are you talking about the Welsh government, Boris or Marcus Rashford ?
Bore off.
You have taken one or two pieces of information and use them to try and get your cronies on board...
Whilst I can understand your need to do .
I am not afraid to back up or explain any decisions I have made .
That said I don't expect to have the you or anyone else try to score childish points on an almost daily basis .
I admire Nugent to a degree , he undoubtedly , like you is on a wind up .
But he comes on here and swims against the mainly leftie voices.
There must be one or two other tories on this board? Have you bullied them away from having a voice?
The tories get voted in time after time by the majority of the population...Only once with my vote .
Well we certainly saw how some folk and MP''S reacted to a huge democratic Brexit vote , we saw a huge voter turn out showing thier democratic could , some MP's even tried to over throw it .
[QUOTE=jon1959;5253752]You can't have it both ways he was responsible for the behaviour of ( his party as its leader ) , it grew and became more prominent under his leadership.
Its the same now with Boris and the culture he allows which I'm sure your appalled to see, and I'm sure you will say the buck stops with the leader, we'll the same went for Corbyn , he allowed it to fester like a cancer knowing it was there all along .
The media and Hodge didn't do for Corbyn the antisemitism within the party did for him along with his own weakness ,and momentum .
Never a leader in a month of Sundays , handed the country to bloody Boris with 80 seat victory ,set Labour back years , man should never be in the party , he uses Labour for his own narrow mindset, he should man up and form his own party not highjack Labour and use it for his own selfish ideology.
The ex miner thought "ah its Blue Matt that well known tory from Mike Morris's message board.
I'll just spin him a yarn about how I didn't really mind the pit closures"
Why the shock about an ex miner saying that he was glad the mines had closed? There are many up here in Treorchy and district who worked down the mines and lots of them had colleagues who died as a consequence, so there had to be a degree of relief when they closed. There was also a metal casting factory at the bottom of the road I live on which employed hundreds I believe, not too far away, there was a big clothes manufacturing business which was the biggest employer after the coal industry in the area. Older locals also tell me about all sorts of retail, leisure and business premises now long gone.
It’s not exactly a ghost town up here these days, every day there’s a trickle of people walking through the Green area.behind my house walking to the double glazing manufacturing and delivery plant half a mile away and there are industrial estates with small businesses running alongside the railway in villages up here, but so much employment was lost when the mines closed and while the locals must have recognised that as a good thing at the time in terms of their health and the environment, there has to be sadness that so little came along in its place.
I don’t kid myself either that if there was still stacks of coal under the ground around here, then the place where I live would look completely different - you’d like to think there be better health and safety requirements in place, but, such is the dominance of the profit margin in the modern world, that there’d be working mines everywhere.
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