Reply With QuoteBut it’s not just about outdoor settings. It’s the travel, the concourse, the pub afterwards… I’m not saying the Welsh Govt got it right with this decision, but it’s not as simple as does it spread easily outside.Originally Posted by dml1954
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Does every other govt across the UK and Europe taking a different approach to the UK govt do so just to be different?
But it’s not just about outdoor settings. It’s the travel, the concourse, the pub afterwards… I’m not saying the Welsh Govt got it right with this decision, but it’s not as simple as does it spread easily outside.
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Earlier variants were not necessarily ‘more serious’, this one has greater escape and is more transmissible even if it is less likely to cause serious illness. The potential pressures faced by the NHS in the month ahead are not ‘usual winter pressures’.
You think the current measures would be used by the current Welsh Government outside a pandemic scenario because of ‘usual winter pressures’? Really?
Except it has nothing to do with being ‘not England’. Why the focus on such a suggestion? It’s about a democratically elected Welsh govt trying to do the right thing for Wales. Agree or disagree with their calls, but better to discuss the issues and policies instead of the ‘not England’ nonsense.
So why do Welsh government ministers keep comparing their COVID-19 policies with what the UK government is doing in England?
This is the way I interpreted it. To get to most outdoor events that attract many people it’s inevitable that at one stage of your journey to & from and even at the venue prior to reaching the ‘outdoor’ section you’re going to be mass mixing indoors. You don’t close your front door and then suddenly appear outside at the event, many would, perhaps, have the opinion that it’s a quite well thought out strategy.
Saying that, I still wish the game was on today, although wasn’t it postponed before the Senedd announcement due to players testing positive?
it was postponed the day before i believe, nobody told radio wales though
it really does look like its " we are different / independant to Westminster " of course he knows Welsh labour are the only party in Wales and people will automatically vote for them every time
They don’t. But a lot of journos ask questions about differences between Cardiff Bay and Westminster policy and they have to provide an answer. WG don’t decide what the media companies decide to use from their pressers.
And they're failing. Consistently.
So Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all take a similar approach, Westminster takes a different approach, but it’s Wales trying to be different from Westminster? Why have this same argument over and over, it goes nowhere. They are all doing what they think is right and what they think they can achieve given the make up and views of their cabinet, backbenchers and wider parties. That’s how politics works.
The Westminster govt may well announce additional restrictions in the coming days, brining them closer to the other UK governments.
Good job we have a democracy in Wales then. When Wales was failed for generation after generation from Westminster, there was bugger all the people of Wales could do about it. If Wales wants policy change now, they can vote for it.
What has democracy got to do with the consistent failure of the Welsh government to do the best thing for the Welsh public?
The consistent failure viewpoint is likely not shared by sufficient numbers to bring about change. The point I was making was that at least we have a mechanism now to make change happen in Wales in devolved policy areas if sufficient numbers vote for change.
That is likely. But then we're living in a country that voted for Brexit.
Germany, Finland, Spain, France, Portugal, Netherlands etc are all implementing restrictions that are either the same or stricter than we have in Wales, that's what i've read, if i'm correct and that's without checking on other European countries. Is their an over reaction from these nations and their governments as well. Obviously, most of us here are UK based, but i don't think that we can ignore the fact that other countries are going as hard or harder than Wales.
Therein lies the real problem...
Errrrmmmm…. ‘Covid Omicron: European nations reinstate restrictions’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59747689
Maybe they're all over reacting.
Maybe the leaders of those respective countries are not being held to account by a number of MPs that do not want any restrictions implemented at all and got their leader by his tiny bollocks?
Additionally, just maybe those respective leaders are not narcissistic twaats who don't mind making tough decisions for the good of their populations instead of being more worried about looking like a Christmas Grinch?
Great analysis and I might add maybe some of those respective leaders care more about their people's health and welfare rather than the way they are destined to vote.
Yup, i agree.
Is there any reason for the vitriol? 'Narcissistic twaats'(sic) 'tiny bollox'? Its comments like that that have made this board so offensive.
I have no idea who is right and who is wrong but isn't it better to see how things start to pan out before blaming someone for
something that hasn't yet happened?
The argument of those against the stricter policy in wales point to the evidence that the new variant is less deadly and less likely to hospitalise than the previous, and when asked for the figures to justify his call Drakeford either couldn't or wouldn't produce them.
As for the continental countries, they are further behind the curve than UK, have no way to control their borders and have in general far smaller a percentage of populations vaccine protected. All these things give people pause for thought and to question why certain things happen.
But don't let that get in the way of slagging off the government, you do it in almost every other thread you join. Enjoy your christmas.
Stop crying about bad language you massive fuucking wuss.
It's a message board not a monastery.
Hope you've had a good Christmas too.
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