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Don't forget about those 'video nasties' and video games that were deemed by the Thatcher governments as the cause of societal violence and moral degradation (whilst kicking the sh*t out of miners at the same time). Every government and political party has tried to curb our freedom of choice. It's why I'm more anarchic these days. Being ruled by the church/state/monarchy/unelected/FPTP systems has taken it out of me over the years!Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
But Mr J, you keep using this term 'intolerant activists'. It doesn't really make sense to me because it implies we should be tolerant of things that are reprehensible just because someone has those views. As human beings, we generally know what's right and wrong when confronted and surely, rather than blanketing everything with liberalism, can't we just, well, not be mean?
Suggest you Google the folks listed above views
No thanks if you can’t articulate them as a summary I can’t be arsed to look.
Kevin Hart springs to mind.
Or we allow humour to stand aside of political correctness which seemed fine in the Thatcher years where they/ her were relentlessly attack by populist comedian's and shows like Spitting Image , which was fine.??
Being cancelled seems to be made up of people calling someone prick on Twitter which seems to sorted equally into the biggest twats and biggest wimps in the world.
Humour does stand aside from it I’ve seen loads of comedy live over the last year and none of it would be considered politically correct.
Have you ever seen Jimmy Carr or Frankie Boyle? They make jokes about everything and anything. Jimmy carr has about 70 tv shows on per day.
What type of comedy do you think isn’t happening? Do you ever watch any?
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So something that has always existed (currently referred to as "cancel culture") continues to exist and our libertarian friends are angry/annoyed/upset because it offends their personal views.
Have I got this right?
That’s not being cancelled though is it?
That’s not being invited in person because the cast think she’s a horrible ****. She’ll still be shown in the videos and an interview that’ll be shown.
The definition of cancelled seems very loose doesn’t it
So the people who are saying Vance culture exists do you want people to say and do whatever they want and no one is allowed to think they’re a ****?
I can’t believe someone is defending Louis CK as a shining example of this either
No because everyone is different and has different views and within the confines of the law we should respect and tolerate those views. We should also seek to understand them too.
There's plenty of views I strongly disagree with but I respect their right to make them and would never attempt to prevent someone from touring etc.
This stuff isn't hard. Live and let live, have an open mind, be open to different opinions etc.
I'm not going to keep an open mind or respect blatant racism, discrimination, flat-earthers, climate change deniers. That's absurd and condones extremism and the very tolerances you purport to uphold will be crushed. Sometimes in life, you have to pick a side.
It's not right wing this man certainly isn':
Iannucci said he did not rewatch his old shows but changing tastes meant they contained material that he would not write today. However, he warned*against cancel culture. He said: “I spent most of my career trying to work out where the line is, where do you feel you’re stepping over the mark and every now and then do it anyway, just to see what happens.”
Iannucci said that he did not set out to offend but simply to write what is funny. He has a reputation for, in his words, comedy that “tends to circulate around embarrassment, or awkwardness or challenging people’s perceptions”.
That just sounds like an interview about comedy being of it’s time though. That’s always happened, things made in the 50s would never have been made in the 70s and things made in the 70s would never have been made in the 90s because things became old and out of touch.
There’s always been a line to not step over, it’s the sign of a good comedian to walk it well. That’s not an interview about cancel culture it’s just presented under that headline.
Sounds like you’re falling into the paradox of tolerance behaving like that.
Should we tolerate the views of extremist Islamic preachers?
I’m sick of people cancelling members of the mujahideen, it’s political correctness gone mad.
You clearly missed the bit where I said 'within the confines of the law'.
Violent Islamic extremists are illegal and promote violence. JK Rowling and Germaine Greer, less so.
Let's have jokes about black , gay , straight, ginger ,blonde, Islam, Jewish, Tory , Labour, Liberal, Welsh , Irish Scots , English and Mujadideen.
There are jokes about all of those though, on tv and in stand up.
Do you not watch any of it? It seems like you’re getting wound up about something you don’t even watch.
Could you not argue they promote violence against trans people? I’m not saying they do but who decides who is and isn’t inciting violence?
Seems a fine line to allow the law to decide what speech is free and what isn’t.
It’s funny how the people who are sure cancel culture exists and people who vote Tory and brexit are a perfect circle on the Venn diagram
Maybe open up the media you consume guys you’re looking like a bunch of sheep.
Rod Liddle and Laurence Fox aren't comics. They're right wing nutjobs who are happy to display their xenophobia. Liddle's comments about Wales are a disgrace and Fox can't be mentally stable.
The main thing I'm getting from this thread is that a lot of you don't watch South Park
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