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  1. #41

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Yup, it seems that way. They must walk about the place waiting for the next thing that infuriates them
    What else have Daily Mail readers got to live for?

  2. #42

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Btw, I forgot to mention I particularly like the change of name from HM Government to UK Government; much more appropriate.

    I don't know what that lot have to do with Government, they don't toe any lines. It's us lot who have to suffer it.

  3. #43

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    It's not April 1st yet is it?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...yle-guide.html

    It is about time this talking shop was closed down. What an embarrassment to Wales.
    It's easier to spend money on this than invest in critical needs such as NHS , and why too easy to blame Westminster for under funding, there should be some responsibility on how our money is spent and spent wisely in fact I think we as voters and tax payers should be asked where are money is spent an what priority .

    Next thing we will see is another bid for those 20 extra AM'S, plus support jobs, back equipment, new offices, cars , and of course expenses , I hear someone is calling for a Welsh Minister residence with full on support staff..

    What a multi layered waste of tax payers money we have in Wales.

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    It's easier to spend money on this than invest in critical needs such as NHS , and why too easy to blame Westminster for under funding, there should be some responsibility on how our money is spent and spent wisely in fact I think we as voters and tax payers should be asked where are money is spent an what priority .

    Next thing we will see is another bid for those 20 extra AM'S, plus support jobs, back equipment, new offices, cars , and of course expenses , I hear someone is calling for a Welsh Minister residence with full on support staff..

    What a multi layered waste of tax payers money we have in Wales.
    Yes you're right, it is a lot easier to spend a nominal amount on a style guide than it is to solve the chronic issues facing our health service

    F*ck me....

  5. #45

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by superflyblues View Post
    Interesting take. Which country do you want Wales to model itself on? Which other country either doesn't have its own parliament or a controlling stake in one?
    I would like to see a UNITED Kingdom government and not the various parts ....The USA has similar even though they have state elections...

  6. #46

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    It's not April 1st yet is it?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...yle-guide.html

    It is about time this talking shop was closed down. What an embarrassment to Wales.
    Daily Mail. Who on earth pays attention to anything published in this rag.

  7. #47

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Yes you're right, it is a lot easier to spend a nominal amount on a style guide than it is to solve the chronic issues facing our health service

    F*ck me....
    LOM doesn't give a **** about the Welsh NHS

  8. #48

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Words to avoid

    We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:

    agenda (unless itís for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - weíre either doing something or weíre not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless itís military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how youíre helping)focusingfoster (unless itís children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - itís probably important)land (as a verb only use if youíre talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless youíre talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless itís strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless itís rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise

    Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:

    drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless itís cattle)going forward (itís unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing

  9. #49

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    LOM doesn't give a **** about the Welsh NHS
    I bet a middle manager or two were on this project for some time as its very detailed , so yes probably ran easily into 6 figures and when added into other soft projects yes it would make a big difference somehow for someone.

    Easy to chuckle, but a lot would think there are far better priorities out there at the moment.

  10. #50

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Meh they won't rule me. I still refuse to use any Welsh in my email signature and never refer to Amy on reception as them.

    Come at me.

  11. #51

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Yes you're right, it is a lot easier to spend a nominal amount on a style guide than it is to solve the chronic issues facing our health service

    F*ck me....
    Read paragraph 2 and 3 .

  12. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Words to avoid

    We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words: etc
    Like it...and of course...It is H.M Government as a newly elected P.M. must seek and gain permission from her to form a government.
    This is actually getting like George Orwell's 1984 and news speak....

  13. #53

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Words to avoid

    We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:

    agenda (unless itís for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - weíre either doing something or weíre not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless itís military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how youíre helping)focusingfoster (unless itís children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - itís probably important)land (as a verb only use if youíre talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless youíre talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless itís strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless itís rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise

    Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:

    drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless itís cattle)going forward (itís unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing
    This is standard across most organisations including tories. It makes communication more effective as all staff follow the guide and do it in the same way. Honestly a couple of words seem more important to right wingers than child poverty and corruption.

  14. #54

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    Come on.....that is just a silly comment. whether it is the Daiy Mail or other publications, the ridiculousness of the edict is laughable.
    You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.

  15. #55

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Yeah right. "A worker" provided all the details for the 'article' for the 'newspaper'.

    Personally, I think the Welsh Parliament is doing a great job defending Wales from Tory royalist clown serfs.

    Meanwhile Patel starts a review of crossbow law. A mentally ill man gets within 500 yards of Elizabeth Windsor and Priti springs into action. What about the guy from North Wales murdered using a crossbow? No review there??
    Maybe things look different from Arizona? Here it just seems ridiculous.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ee-50-22583757

  16. #56

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    For anyone playing right-wing poker I call. Four of a kind.

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    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Words to avoid

    We use*plain English*on GOV.WALES, so please avoid using these words:

    agenda (unless it’s for a meeting)advancingcollaborate (use working with)combatingcommit or pledge (we need to be more specific - we’re either doing something or we’re not)counteringdeliver (pizzas, post and services are delivered - not abstract concepts like improvements or priorities)deploy (unless it’s military or software)dialogue (we speak to people)disincentivise (and incentivise)empowerfacilitate (instead, say something specific about how you’re helping)focusingfoster (unless it’s children)impact (do not use this as a synonym for have an effect on, or influence)initiatekey (unless it unlocks something. A subject or thing is not key - it’s probably important)land (as a verb only use if you’re talking about aircraft)leverage (unless in the financial or mechanical sense)liaiseoverarchingprogress (as a verb - what are you actually doing?)promote (unless you’re talking about an ad campaign or some other marketing promotion)robustslimming down (processes do not diet)streamlinestrengthening (unless it’s strengthening bridges or other structures)tackling (unless it’s rugby, football or some other sport)transforming (what are you actually doing to change it?)utilise

    Avoid using metaphors, they do not say what you actually mean and lead to slower comprehension of your content. For example:

    drive (you can only drive vehicles, not schemes or people)drive out (unless it’s cattle)going forward (it’s unlikely we are giving travel directions)in order to (superfluous - do not use it)one-stop shop (we are government, not a retail outlet)ring fencing
    What don't you like about plain English?

    Er......

    Forget it!

  18. #58

    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    You've no chance convincing some on here. Anything in the Daily Mail is bad. Anything from the senedd good.
    The story so far:

    Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;

    Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;

    Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.

    Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.

    A couple of usual suspects pile in.

    What a hill to make a stand on though??

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    Re: Who on earth votes for this lot???

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    The story so far:

    Quite a while ago the UK Government Website Gov.UK produces a style guide for written contributions;

    Sometime later the Welsh Government Website, Wales.Gov follows suit, largely copying the UK version;

    Quite a while later the Daily Mail decides this is worthy of a sensationalist headline criticising the Welsh Government for, apparently using the same phrases as used on the Gov.UK site.

    Maurice Swan, currently resident in the Dordogne, spews outrage about how the world's gone mad.

    A couple of usual suspects pile in.

    What a hill to make a stand on though??

    That just about covers it.

  20. #60

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    Just to explain the concept of right-wing poker. Four wokes would beat a pair of loony-lefts. You have to call when the thread has reached the required amount. Other examples of combinations could be, say, four George Orwells would beat any other four of a kind. The rules need refining but with a bit of effort, it could be the CCMB equivalent to Mornington Crescent (as played on 'I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue').

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