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  1. #1

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    From what i heard Tan has received offers which were not good enough.
    That bad smell Hammam who took us to the brink and is still scavenging for money was involved in another offer and luckily he won't be near our club anytime soon.
    I honestly believe that Tan will be going down the route of getting other asia based investors onboard.
    My preference would be for Tan to get out of the way. But if that's not to happen then more Asian investment could be a positive. However I think for that to benefit us it would have to be on the basis that Tan is a minority shareholder and is removed from plenary decision-making.

    If that happens we might have a chance of a more professional and constructive management regime which would look to develop the club long term. Of course we would have to rely upon the integrity and ability of those taking charge. Dalman and Choo should walk.

  2. #2

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    My preference would be for Tan to get out of the way. But if that's not to happen then more Asian investment could be a positive. However I think for that to benefit us it would have to be on the basis that Tan is a minority shareholder and is removed from plenary decision-making.

    If that happens we might have a chance of a more professional and constructive management regime which would look to develop the club long term. Of course we would have to rely upon the integrity and ability of those taking charge. Dalman and Choo should walk.
    Tan isn't interested in being a minority shareholder.

  3. #3

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Tan isn't interested in being a minority shareholder.
    Shame, he needs to sell some shares up, raise some cash….stop moaning and wasting millions like he has. Looking at that Leicester semi in 2010 it’s amazing how the clubs have faired since under two Asian owners….

  4. #4

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Shame, he needs to sell some shares up, raise some cash….stop moaning and wasting millions like he has. Looking at that Leicester semi in 2010 it’s amazing how the clubs have faired since under two Asian owners….
    there are plenty of other clubs besides us and Leicester though, not many compare well with Leicester

  5. #5

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    there are plenty of other clubs besides us and Leicester though, not many compare well with Leicester
    I know I’m only comparing from that game….

  6. #6

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Shame, he needs to sell some shares up, raise some cash….stop moaning and wasting millions like he has. Looking at that Leicester semi in 2010 it’s amazing how the clubs have faired since under two Asian owners….
    Why do we ALWAYS compare to Leicester? The stars aligned for them with some bargain buys.

    Why don't we ever compare with Bolton, or Hull or Ipswich or Wednesday

  7. #7

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Why do we ALWAYS compare to Leicester? The stars aligned for them with some bargain buys.

    Why don't we ever compare with Bolton, or Hull or Ipswich or Wednesday
    Agreed. We have been promoted twice since 2010. We are not exactly regulars in the top flight. It’s just a shame we didn’t kick on but it’s damn hard to stay up.

  8. #8

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Why do we ALWAYS compare to Leicester? The stars aligned for them with some bargain buys.

    Why don't we ever compare with Bolton, or Hull or Ipswich or Wednesday
    Or Palace? Watford? Brentford? Brighton etc.

  9. #9

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Shame, he needs to sell some shares up, raise some cash….stop moaning and wasting millions like he has. Looking at that Leicester semi in 2010 it’s amazing how the clubs have faired since under two Asian owners….
    When was the last time you heard Tan ‘moaning’ and why do think that you can tell him how to spend his own money ? You are like a stuck record.

  10. #10

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    My preference would be for Tan to get out of the way. But if that's not to happen then more Asian investment could be a positive. However I think for that to benefit us it would have to be on the basis that Tan is a minority shareholder and is removed from plenary decision-making.

    If that happens we might have a chance of a more professional and constructive management regime which would look to develop the club long term. Of course we would have to rely upon the integrity and ability of those taking charge. Dalman and Choo should walk.
    Bit of a story doing the twitter rounds that Giles may return to City.

  11. #11

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We've got Colwill who can play 10, who can actually play football and they're trying to pass it so the midfield might try to keep it. I think the fact we've been absolutely terrible with a back 5 for about 9 months is all the reason you need to change it. We need a left wing back, we can't play this formation without an attacking option there. We don't have that. With Bagan and Ng, it is a back 5.
    Agreed. It's fairly obvious the centre backs aren't comfortable in a 3 and we're sliced open easily. Our remaining wing backs are really full backs and this system leaves us with very few attackers, with us shoehorning players like Colwill in

  12. #12

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Agreed. It's fairly obvious the centre backs aren't comfortable in a 3 and we're sliced open easily. Our remaining wing backs are really full backs and this system leaves us with very few attackers, with us shoehorning players like Colwill in
    I wouldn't say we are shoehorning colwill in.
    behind the striker in a 3-4-1-2 or a 3-4-2-1 is surely his best position?
    how else would you use him?

  13. #13

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Let's hope he has a stinker against Sheff Utd on Saturday and Wolves get knocked out of the cup.. every chance he will be back before the end of the window.

  14. #14

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad View Post
    Let's hope he has a stinker against Sheff Utd on Saturday and Wolves get knocked out of the cup.. every chance he will be back before the end of the window.
    I'd doubt Wolves would want him playing for a struggling team. They'd hope for a team pushing for play-offs at least.

  15. #15

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Porth Pouncer View Post
    I'd doubt Wolves would want him playing for a struggling team. They'd hope for a team pushing for play-offs at least.
    he's getting good game time here, in the position they want him to play and has made 9 assists, the joint highest in the league. I think they would be happy with the loan.

    if he does play for them in the cup then he could ONLY play for us or them until the end of the season

  16. #16

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Its a big loss. 9 assists in a struggling team is no mean feat.

    I deplore three at the back but with no senior wingers, two full backs and a truck load of centre backs & centre mids I fear we are stuck with it. Given how poor our defensive record is and how little pace there is on the side I feel like we have to get on the front foot more and look after the ball better.

    With that in mind I'd personally I'd favour deploying the formation Coleman used with Wales. Bring Harris more central to play alongside Moore / Collins and play Colwill as a number 10. Takes the pressure off the wing backs to get forward (and let's be honest Bagan and Ng are more full backs than wing backs) and we can build the side around the one creative talent that we have.

  17. #17

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Have read a tweet which says that he could come back to us at the end of January if Wolves injury/absence situation improves. Maybe a little hope.

  18. #18

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Have read a tweet which says that he could come back to us at the end of January if Wolves injury/absence situation improves. Maybe a little hope.
    can we afford to not replace him now on the off chance we get him back?

  19. #19

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Tan isn't interested in being a minority shareholder.
    Yes, that's how I understand it. Therein lies our problem.

  20. #20

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Punxsutawney Phil View Post
    I think it's more that he's not keen on breaching FFP
    I'm not so sure on that one Phil. That can be used as a convenient excuse and I'm sure the board aren't above using it.

  21. #21

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra View Post
    Its a big loss. 9 assists in a struggling team is no mean feat.

    I deplore three at the back but with no senior wingers, two full backs and a truck load of centre backs & centre mids I fear we are stuck with it. Given how poor our defensive record is and how little pace there is on the side I feel like we have to get on the front foot more and look after the ball better.

    With that in mind I'd personally I'd favour deploying the formation Coleman used with Wales. Bring Harris more central to play alongside Moore / Collins and play Colwill as a number 10. Takes the pressure off the wing backs to get forward (and let's be honest Bagan and Ng are more full backs than wing backs) and we can build the side around the one creative talent that we have.
    Good post, I hate the 3 at the back too. You're right in that the squad lacks flexibility and is overloaded in certain areas.

    I'm hoping Wintle can add a bit more stability at defensive CM and I would like to see us use a back 4. I still think NG and Bagan can be useful full backs in that formation; maybe less so NG but I think Bagan can develop well.

    Ralls Wintle, Bowen and Colwill could develop into an effective midfield unit and I have belief that the Moore/Harris(or Davies) partnership could vastly improve with a better midfield behind them.

  22. #22

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Shame, he needs to sell some shares up, raise some cash….stop moaning and wasting millions like he has. Looking at that Leicester semi in 2010 it’s amazing how the clubs have faired since under two Asian owners….
    Absolutely spot on

  23. #23

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    there are plenty of other clubs besides us and Leicester though, not many compare well with Leicester
    Surely it's better to try and emulate Leicester rather than Bury?

  24. #24

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Surely it's better to try and emulate Leicester rather than Bury?
    Also similar sized clubs and support, stadiums, and probably investment by the owners….ours got us nowhere really whereas Leicesters owners managed to sustain it very very well….

  25. #25

    Re: UPDATED: Wolves recall Ryan Giles

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    When was the last time you heard Tan ‘moaning’ and why do think that you can tell him how to spend his own money ? You are like a stuck record.
    Hes a lifelong supporter of the club, that's why, unlike you David. And to me that's far more important than some Johnny Cum Latelys dosh.

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