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    Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1986283.html..

    I see 600, 000 disagree .

    Can imagine a few angry faces in the bowels of Labour ,looks like Kier is on the war path, perhaps Tony is coming back into the Labour fold .

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    I'm not a fan, but to be fair to him, Blair was Prime Minister for ten years, and won three elections. Seems fair enough to me.
    I imagine there would be a similar vote if/when Teresa May gets put up for a peerage.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    This is plain and simple..The rich and powerful look after the rich and powerful. There is one exception because it's something so awful that the general public can't accept it without punishment. Pedophilia.

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    Totally disagree, just because someone was PM shouldn't automatically qualify for a gong in my opinion. Also Tony leaves a very tortuous legacy for many. Yes this sounds like the elite looking after their own yet again.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Totally disagree, just because someone was PM shouldn't automatically qualify for a gong in my opinion. Also Tony leaves a very tortuous legacy for many. Yes this sounds like the elite looking after their own yet again.
    I believe this appointment was direct from the Queen, not through normal political channels

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    It will be Sir Boris Johnson a decade from now.
    The Honours System is an archaic waste of time.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    It will be Sir Boris Johnson a decade from now.
    The Honours System is an archaic waste of time.
    You think? I reckon Johnson will go straight to the lords. Lord Feckwit of Brexit.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    It will be Sir Boris Johnson a decade from now.
    The Honours System is an archaic waste of time.
    it is a joke

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Does any other regime have a system of "honours" involving the granting of titles on Earth like the UK?

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics.../01/04/08748/1

    Only 14% of people approve of Blair's knighthood

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Sir Tony is a personal appointment by the Queen, not one that's gone to committee for approval.
    Agree with it or not, a petition won't change her mind.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Honestly don’t know how the guy sleeps at night…..what a wrong un he turned out to be

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Knight agrees with other bloke becoming a Knight whilst the Lord of Darkness Mandleson nods approvingly.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    A good example of why we need to scrap the entire honours system apart from for "ordinary" members of the public who've done great things for charity etc.
    No former PMs or other MPs, civil servants, party donors, businessmen and women, sportspeople, actors or musicians.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    A good example of why we need to scrap the entire honours system apart from for "ordinary" members of the public who've done great things for charity etc.
    No former PMs or other MPs, civil servants, party donors, businessmen and women, sportspeople, actors or musicians.
    I know someone who works for the BBC World Service and, putting aside the incredble funds raised as a result, was rather begrudging of the media attention that the pensioner, 'Sir Tom', was given courtesy of his very media-savvy and wealthy daughter. And the McCann's, a media-savvy couple seemed to have more attention focussed on the loss of their daughter than perhaps a run-of-the-mill working class couple. Such situations muddy the waters as to who exactly are 'ordinary people'.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Am I right in thinking, olde Tony’s Mrs, was involved in taking our troops to court for alleged “War crimes” !

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Am I right in thinking, olde Tony’s Mrs, was involved in taking our troops to court for alleged “War crimes” !
    Not sure of her involvement but nothing alleged about it, they were guilty of war crimes but no charges. Also guilty of inadequacies in the original investigation by the military plod.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I know someone who works for the BBC World Service and, putting aside the incredble funds raised as a result, was rather begrudging of the media attention that the pensioner, 'Sir Tom', was given courtesy of his very media-savvy and wealthy daughter. And the McCann's, a media-savvy couple seemed to have more attention focussed on the loss of their daughter than perhaps a run-of-the-mill working class couple. Such situations muddy the waters as to who exactly are 'ordinary people'.
    I think the McCann's are pretty 'ordinary' people..

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
    A good example of why we need to scrap the entire honours system apart from for "ordinary" members of the public who've done great things for charity etc.
    No former PMs or other MPs, civil servants, party donors, businessmen and women, sportspeople, actors or musicians.
    Absolutely right; however I'd go for getting rid of them together. People who do good don't need gongs, their conscience will look after that.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Absolutely right; however I'd go for getting rid of them together. People who do good don't need gongs, their conscience will look after that.
    It's nice to give awards for good service, to recognise work and achievement and it could give some attention to a good cause. They're not necessarily bad things but the strange way we do them tends to show what we're like as a country. The important, fancy people must be clearly labelled and take their place in the fairytale hierarchy. The names change to distant everyone from the hoi polloi although some wear the "honour" lightly.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
    It's nice to give awards for good service, to recognise work and achievement and it could give some attention to a good cause. They're not necessarily bad things but the strange way we do them tends to show what we're like as a country. The important, fancy people must be clearly labelled and take their place in the fairytale hierarchy. The names change to distant everyone from the hoi polloi although some wear the "honour" lightly.
    Sorry don't agree. They are a source of corruption and hubris. Who on Earth needs recognition for doing good? It's reward enough in itself.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Sorry don't agree. They are a source of corruption and hubris. Who on Earth needs recognition for doing good? It's reward enough in itself.
    No probs, but I don't mean it's good to receive the accolade but that it's good to give them as a sign of recognition. And this only for the general public. You make a fair point about knighthoods being used as favours etc but they'd lose that kind of value if you knock the daft titles out of the equation.

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Don't think the Queen was or is a fan of old Tony , hence the 14 year wait , sounds like it was an award that had to be given in end with a sigh 😕.

    Sir Keir had nowhere to turn when asked, and has shown a liking for some of Blair's Tory lite type politics ,which won't appeal to the grassroots of his party ?

    Wonder what Corbyn and his supportors think , and do next 🤔

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    Re: Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Don't think the Queen was or is a fan of old Tony , hence the 14 year wait , sounds like it was an award that had to be given in end with a sigh ��.

    Sir Keir had nowhere to turn when asked, and has shown a liking for some of Blair's Tory lite type politics ,which won't appeal to the grassroots of his party ?

    Wonder what Corbyn and his supportors think , and do next ��
    All pure speculation.

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