Sir Kier Says Letting Tony Be A Sir is correct

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I know folk hate the mail but this is worth a read :

Tony Blair's Defence Secretary says he was told to BURN memo https://mol.im/a/10369343 via https://dailym.ai/android

10 x more read than the Guardian.

[A Quiet Monkfish]

I know someone who works for the BBC World Service and, putting aside the incredble funds raised as a result, was rather begrudging of the media attention that the pensioner, 'Sir Tom', was given courtesy of his very media-savvy and wealthy daughter. And the McCann's, a media-savvy couple seemed to have more attention focussed on the loss of their daughter than perhaps a run-of-the-mill working class couple. Such situations muddy the waters as to who exactly are 'ordinary people'.

I think the McCann's are pretty 'ordinary' people..

[delmbox]

10 x more read than the Guardian.

Yeah but they still don't like it.

https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/media/p.../newspaper/all

[OurManFlint II]

Am I right in thinking, olde Tony’s Mrs, was involved in taking our troops to court for alleged “War crimes” !

Not sure of her involvement but nothing alleged about it, they were guilty of war crimes but no charges. Also guilty of inadequacies in the original investigation by the military plod.

[OurManFlint II]

10 x more read than the Guardian.

why do you lie and just make up numbers?

[Citizen's Nephew]

Lets not forget that Betty Windsor (affectionately known as mummy to our prince Andy) is footing the pauper's legal fees.

Hiding behind the loophole of a dead sex trafficker? Stay classy, Andrew

Edit: Posted in the wrong thread - or is it really? They're all a bunch of shysters.

Edit Edit: What day is it?

Edit Edit Edit: Will post in the other one too. Take that you pesky Windsors.

[Citizen's Nephew]

of course kier starmer would think that.

That's Sir Kier Starmer to you, plebeian.

[Citizen's Nephew]

I give you Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile OBE KCSG - ordinary bloke, smoked a cigar.

[Rjk]

That's Sir Kier Starmer to you, plebeian.

I don't recognise the honours system or the monarchy

[Citizen's Nephew]

I don't recognise the honours system or the monarchy

Neither do I, but unfortunately the b*ggers recognise us.

I notice that Starmer signs his emails 'Keir' when he wants to present himself as an 'ordinary' bloke.

[Dorcus]

Neither do I, but unfortunately the b*ggers recognise us.

I notice that Starmer signs his emails 'Keir' when he wants to present himself as an 'ordinary' bloke.

Some Labour Party members refer to him as "cur".

[Citizen's Nephew]

Some Labour Party members refer to him as "cur".

Actually, just realised I'd spelled his name wrong too! What kind of a name is Keer anyway?

[Rjk]

Actually, just realised I'd spelled his name wrong too! What kind of a name is Keer anyway?

what kind of a name is Keir?

[splott parker]

what kind of a name is Keir?

The founder of the party.

[Citizen's Nephew]

The founder of the party.

Kier Labour?

[goats]

of course kier starmer would think that.

Another Tory in disguise eh? Who would get fooled again?

[Tuerto]

I've mixed feelings on Tony Blair. The Iraq war of course completely muddies the water on what was otherwise a pretty successful period for him as Prime Minister.

To be elected three times is no mean feat, and governing for ten years means he has had a hugely significant role in the life of the country and it's people.

I don't think being a controversial figure should bar someone from being knighted tbh. We don't really want to live in such an anodyne world do we? By definition, nearly all figures will be controversial or have some enemies.

I'm okay with it. But more than anything, does it matter that much? I'm not opposed to the honours system, but I don't pay great attention to it either.

Didn't you say that you were once a member of the respect party, or that you supported them? Apologies if I have that wrong

[JamesWales]

Didn't you say that you were once a member of the respect party, or that you supported them? Apologies if I have that wrong

I was. When they were formed in 2004 I was a member for a year. Was one of (checks wikipedia) 386 people who voted for Raja Gul-Raiz in Cardiff Central in 2005.

I marched three times against the Iraq War - twice in Cardiff and once at that massive march in London, so back then I hated Blair, viewed him as destroying Labour and all that.

In time, I recognise he saved Labour, and irrespective of all the usual pro's and con's of office he was a competent PM. But yeah, Iraq is the big shadow. Nonetheless, someone of his statue being knighted - I think that's fine.

[DubaiDai]

Totally disagree, just because someone was PM shouldn't automatically qualify for a gong in my opinion. Also Tony leaves a very tortuous legacy for many. Yes this sounds like the elite looking after their own yet again.

I believe this appointment was direct from the Queen, not through normal political channels

[az city]

Does any other regime have a system of "honours" involving the granting of titles on Earth like the UK?

[Rjk]

The founder of the party.

I am aware

[Citizen's Nephew]

I was. When they were formed in 2004 I was a member for a year. Was one of (checks wikipedia) 386 people who voted for Raja Gul-Raiz in Cardiff Central in 2005.

I marched three times against the Iraq War - twice in Cardiff and once at that massive march in London, so back then I hated Blair, viewed him as destroying Labour and all that.

In time, I recognise he saved Labour, and irrespective of all the usual pro's and con's of office he was a competent PM. But yeah, Iraq is the big shadow. Nonetheless, someone of his statue being knighted - I think that's fine.

Nah! He’s still destroying labour just by proxy. His Dark Lord is the sidekick of his disciple Starmer. Let’s not gloss over the fact that Liz has just knighted a war criminal and murderer.

[Dorcus]

I believe this appointment was direct from the Queen, not through normal political channels

That makes it even worse in my opinion

[Alan Lung]

I believe this appointment was direct from the Queen, not through normal political channels

She needs executing, the stupid old bint.

[splott parker]

Kier Labour?

No, silly, Billy Hardy