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I couldn't resist sorry.
For anyone not familiar with the debate -
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...n-Wales-advice
To me this is the right outcome with the wrong decision if that makes sense
It puts the definition of offence onto individuals and not from the state which I don’t agree with.
I applaud why they did what they did but not necessarily agree with their actions.
One day someone will list all of the odd rules that have been in place since the start if the pandemic. Maintaining a 2 metre gap in a swimming pool was one that springs to mind, as does staying in your own county, meaning I couldn't cycle completely across the barrage.
Me neither, for me this is the right verdict.
This is not rewriting history, it's more a question of a community declaring what they find offensive and thereby ensuring the removal of the offending item away from general view. By all means put it in a museum where it belongs.
I definitely would not have wanted the statue to have been destroyed because it tells a story of a mindset long ago and it should be recognised as an important historical artefact. However that story should be available to be explored with its own narrative in a place where people make the conscious choice to learn about it. Having it on public display in a city centre for all and sundry to see is not right.
At first glance this seems a fine example of white, middle class privilege. Something I normally am minded to dismiss.
Colston is a very controversial figure, but that goes for many and you can't go pulling down stuff because you personally don't like it
Am surprised the jury found them not guilty, but as with all court cases, it's best to go with the decision of those who heard the entire case.
I'm glad they didn't get criminal records for this because having one for activism of this nature is a much greater sentence than a nominal fine. It follows you around for years (sometimes for life). Anyway, a jury found them not guilty by an 11 to 1 majority and the defence argued that the statue, which stood over the city for 125 years, was so indecent and potentially abusive that it constituted a crime. The jury agreed with this. It does set a precedent. which in my view, is a good thing.
I've had discussions about this with lots of people and I always ask them to imagine a statue of Jimmy Saville being in a public place and would they feel the same way if someone/people pulled it down. Remember, Bristol had had 125 years to think this one over. It's not like the community hadn't asked politely for it to be removed. It was up to the BLM to get things going. That's a lot of waiting around for 'the state' to do the decent thing.
Saying Colston is a very controversial figure is a bit like saying Epstein or Maxwell were/are controversial figures when in fact they're all hideous individuals. Colston was a slaver. There's nothing controversial about it. The jury did the right thing, for once. They clearly didn't feel the need to stick the boot in and f*ck these people's lives up for doing something that is a lot less bad than speeding on the motorway.
The trial was not if the Colston statue was offensive
It was was did they commit criminal damage, which as they did not dispute the roles they had played in pulling down the statue and throwing it in the River Avon ( which of course was criminal damage ) seems the trial was a bit of a farce
The defence arguing what they did was justified because they thought the statue was offensive isn't really defence for criminal damage
Jake Skuse ( one of the guys ) said "knew he was in the right" and that it was "what the people of Bristol wanted".
Correct verdict. Had it been a statue of a paedophile would community feelings not have taken into consideration? I think the mistake was taking this to court in the first place. The sensible course of action would have been to have had a community discussion about the status of these artifacts and what should be done about them.
Can’t believe Matt wants statues of peadophiles erected, perverse.
slavery is bad , islam at the time of colston was more involved in slavery than the west therefore islam bad