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    Chester FC

    Chester have been charged by North Wales Police and Flintshire council for playing home football matches with spectators thereby breaking the law, because their pitch is in Wales!!
    Madness!!!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59920281

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    Re: Chester FC

    .Land registry records confirm that the whole site is within the administrative area of Cheshire West & Chester Council

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    .Land registry records confirm that the whole site is within the administrative area of Cheshire West & Chester Council
    I know, that's what makes it such madness!!

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    Not sure they have been charged have they ?

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    Not 100% on this, but I’m sure I read TNS, who’s ground is in England, must abide with all clubs Wales and play behind closed doors. If that’s the case it makes the Chester situation even more ridiculous.

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    Re: Chester FC

    The same government deemed sanitary products and baby clothes non essential as well FGS

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Not sure they have been charged have they ?
    Charged may be too strong a word but they have been accused and warned not to do it again. It will end up a mess.

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    They may claim they're an English club but they happily took coronavirus grants off Flintshire council last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanishen Bull View Post
    They may claim they're an English club but they happily took coronavirus grants off Flintshire council last year.
    Did they? How much did they get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanishen Bull View Post
    They may claim they're an English club but they happily took coronavirus grants off Flintshire council last year.
    And they watered their pitch using Welsh water.

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    Re: Chester FC

    Chester's Chairman:

    "We have been acting within English legislation since the stadium was built in 1992. While acknowledging the border runs through the stadium, the club, for 30 years, has been treated as English with the registered address in England. On a match day, the policing around the stadium has always been through Cheshire Police. Our safety certificate, fire, ambulance have always been handled by Cheshire. The entry to the car park and the main entrance to the stadium is in England. We are affiliated to the English FA and throughout Covid the main grants and supports we have accessed have been through the English system."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Chester's Chairman:

    "We have been acting within English legislation since the stadium was built in 1992. While acknowledging the border runs through the stadium, the club, for 30 years, has been treated as English with the registered address in England. On a match day, the policing around the stadium has always been through Cheshire Police. Our safety certificate, fire, ambulance have always been handled by Cheshire. The entry to the car park and the main entrance to the stadium is in England. We are affiliated to the English FA and throughout Covid the main grants and supports we have accessed have been through the English system."
    All said whilst dressed as a Crusader.

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Did they? How much did they get?
    https://cityfansunited.com/tag/chester-fc/page/2/

    £25k according to this.

    About equivalent to one home game's takings perhaps.

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Chester's Chairman:

    "We have been acting within English legislation since the stadium was built in 1992. While acknowledging the border runs through the stadium, the club, for 30 years, has been treated as English with the registered address in England. On a match day, the policing around the stadium has always been through Cheshire Police. Our safety certificate, fire, ambulance have always been handled by Cheshire. The entry to the car park and the main entrance to the stadium is in England. We are affiliated to the English FA and throughout Covid the main grants and supports we have accessed have been through the English system."
    Does that imply that any company operating within Wales, could change their registered address with Companies House to an English address, to qualify for grants from Westminster and not the Senedd?

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Does that imply that any company operating within Wales, could change their registered address with Companies House to an English address, to qualify for grants from Westminster and not the Senedd?


    They received a £25k grant linked to their rateable value. Flintshire is the licensing authority so this is who they pay rates to (the money originated from UK Treasury)

    It’s not relevant to the current situation. Welsh Government’s position is based solely on the location of the border apparently

    If they do get banned,they could get 2-3,000 in the car park which is in England.

    Does anybody know if Berwick Rangers are allowed fans ?

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    No idea about Berwick Rangers. Google Earth is most illuminating when it comes to the Wales/England border through Chester's ground. Presuming it is accurate.

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    They received a £25k grant linked to their rateable value. Flintshire is the licensing authority so this is who they pay rates to (the money originated from UK Treasury)

    It’s not relevant to the current situation. Welsh Government’s position is based solely on the location of the border apparently

    If they do get banned,they could get 2-3,000 in the car park which is in England.

    Does anybody know if Berwick Rangers are allowed fans ?
    Looking at Berwicks website they seemed to have fans there on Boxing Day.

    Saying that do they get 500 fans anyway?

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Looking at Berwicks website they seemed to have fans there on Boxing Day.

    Saying that do they get 500 fans anyway?

    I don’t think they are allowed looking at this link - it appears be be the opposite to Chester. Let’s be honest it’s farcical

    https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/divisions/208/11/

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    .Land registry records confirm that the whole site is within the administrative area of Cheshire West & Chester Council
    I didn't know that part of that administrative area was in Wales.

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I didn't know that part of that administrative area was in Wales.

    What’s upset you now my friend ?

  21. #21

    Re: Chester FC

    The whole of the playing surface and stands are in Wales, the car park is in England.

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    Re: Chester FC

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    What’s upset you now my friend ?
    Nothing. Merely commenting that if the ground is within the boundary of the Cheshire West then it stands to reason a part of that authority must also lie within Wales.

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    Re: Chester FC

    I just quoted what was on the BBC article , I think it’s trivialising a serious situation and incidents like this can have an affect on public opinion and compliance. It’s only my view though and you’re entitled to yours.

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    Re: Chester FC

    its all a little pathetic

    Not sure what whoever in Wales ( new article says "the Welsh government" ) that has started this ball rolling hopes to achieve

    We all know Chester are a English club, who cares if the ground is in Wales and the car park in England, they are English, every football fan knows that

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    Re: Chester FC

    Check out the land registry map (or Cheshire and Flintshire council maps come to that), they all show the Welsh-English border in the same place, basically the whole ground is in Wales with the car park in England.

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