Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Yes there is but if we lose billions in spending and investment and gain a few hundred million from the EU, whilst removing ourselves from the UK internal market, I would say the net result is likely to be negative.

I'm generally opposed to Independence but I am open minded on the pros and cons of it, but claiming it's a no brainer is not true at all. If it is a no brainer on anything it's that we would lose an enormous amount of support from being part of the UK.
the economic arguments against independence for Wales would have applied equally, if not more so to Ireland 100 years ago.
they were the poorest part of the UK, today they are richer than the UK.
if they had not become independent they would prit still be the poorest part of the UK.

the additional spend Wales gets compared to the rest of the UK is because we are older, poorer and in worse health. but none of that money is going to change that. only infrastructure and transformational spending will achieve that and Wales are always a forgotten child when it comes to that.