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Thread: if Kieffer moore leaves

  1. #141

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    The only way selling Moore makes sense in the position we’re in is if there is a well thought through plan to spend at least some of the money received to leave us with, hopefully, a stronger squad than we have now - based on what we’ve seen in the past ten years or so, do you think that’s likely to be the case?
    Not in the slightest. I doubt we'll see any of the money, particularly as Wigan will grab a fair chunk. I'd prefer to keep him at least until the end of the season

  2. #142

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    The only way selling Moore makes sense in the position we’re in is if there is a well thought through plan to spend at least some of the money received to leave us with, hopefully, a stronger squad than we have now - based on what we’ve seen in the past ten years or so, do you think that’s likely to be the case?
    That has to be a no from me. Not in the slightest. He's not my kind of a player, and as I've said, I think he's let us down this season, but it's going to make our job of staying in the division an awful lot harder if we sell him. I don't think our board will get a good price for him if they do decide to sell. We're dire on and off the pitch.

  3. #143

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    How much do we lose in income being in league one compared to the Championship?

  4. #144

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    That has to be a no from me. Not in the slightest. He's not my kind of a player, and as I've said, I think he's let us down this season, but it's going to make our job of staying in the division an awful lot harder if we sell him. I don't think our board will get a good price for him if they do decide to sell. We're dire on and off the pitch.
    To be fair the board have occasionally managed to get very good deals: £8m for Zohore, £3m for Mason, £6m for Mutch

  5. #145

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    To be fair the board have occasionally managed to get very good deals: £8m for Zohore, £3m for Mason, £6m for Mutch
    You're right, to be fair. I'm just annoyed we're in this position and a bit grumpy at the moment. I can't believe my heart rate during a match between Brum and Posh. I can't take this!

  6. #146

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    I wonder if we're talking to Andy Carroll as a potential replacement

  7. #147

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I wonder if we're talking to Andy Carroll as a potential replacement
    More likely to be talking to Andy Campbell….

    Sorry, open goal. Couldn’t resist.

  8. #148

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I wonder if we're talking to Andy Carroll as a potential replacement
    'Moore' like Lewis Carroll then we'd be in wonderland.

  9. #149

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    To be fair the board have occasionally managed to get very good deals: £8m for Zohore, £3m for Mason, £6m for Mutch
    They dont really like to talk about the money they get in though from sky, selling, crowds etc….just what goes out

  10. #150

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Sensible View Post
    Talk on Wigan message boards that they would be entitled to a 20% sell-on fee.
    This means we'd lose money on the transfer (£2.6m spent and £2.4m back in), which is ridiculous considering the season he had last year and his Wales exploits

  11. #151

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Punxsutawney Phil View Post
    This means we'd lose money on the transfer (£2.6m spent and £2.4m back in), which is ridiculous considering the season he had last year and his Wales exploits
    yeah that is ridiculous

  12. #152

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    City has been the graveyard of many strikers in recent years. They simply don't receive decent supply.

  13. #153

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    The only way selling Moore makes sense in the position we’re in is if there is a well thought through plan to spend at least some of the money received to leave us with, hopefully, a stronger squad than we have now - based on what we’ve seen in the past ten years or so, do you think that’s likely to be the case?
    Josh Maja is in talks with Championship clubs. I hope the club are one of them. They won't be, though because that is far too sensible for Tan and Dalman.

  14. #154

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Punxsutawney Phil View Post
    This means we'd lose money on the transfer (£2.6m spent and £2.4m back in), which is ridiculous considering the season he had last year and his Wales exploits
    It'll be 20% on the profit.

  15. #155

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    It'll be 20% on the profit.
    Is it really that simple though? Presumably there are costs (and possibly taxes) when buying and selling players.

  16. #156

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Is it really that simple though? Presumably there are costs (and possibly taxes) when buying and selling players.
    VAT for one. I'm pretty sure it is standard that it is based on the profit.

  17. #157

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Sell on clauses may not necessarily be standard, so it all depends on what was agreed when we bought Kieffer.
    I’d be surprised profit is the value used, because it would be possible to downplay it in order to reduce the amount paid onwards.

  18. #158

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Josh Maja is in talks with Championship clubs. I hope the club are one of them. They won't be, though because that is far too sensible for Tan and Dalman.
    Morison looks for the players he wants then asks the powers above..

  19. #159

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    He doesn’t want to be here, his attitude stinks, people saying we’ll be worse off if he goes. How can we be worse off getting shot of someone who spends match days on his settee? If he stays, he won’t play much, I think he’s trying to break the world record for catching Covid. Should he be allowed in the ground with the relevant vaccination proof anyway? He’s let us down badly.

  20. #160

    Re: if Kieffer moore leaves

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    He doesn’t want to be here, his attitude stinks, people saying we’ll be worse off if he goes. How can we be worse off getting shot of someone who spends match days on his settee? If he stays, he won’t play much, I think he’s trying to break the world record for catching Covid. Should he be allowed in the ground with the relevant vaccination proof anyway? He’s let us down badly.
    This is how I've felt this season. If he stays and wears the shirt I hope he can win me over. We didn't get to see him in his 20 goal season. I'd like to see that version, and please can we stop making excuses for him. He's a 29-year-old Cardiff City striker and we're in the sh*t. We need wins, goals and can't afford to keep anyone who doesn't want to be here.

    Edit: and FFS the 20 goals were last season. That's gone. None of us can live on past glories. It's this season's tally that's important. If any of us f*ck up at work we don't get to use the excuse 'well, I was bloody brilliant last year!'

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