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Thread: Harry Wilson

  1. #21

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    And had the money !
    Correct just like us. Foresight and ambition, coupled with determination are winning virtues.

  2. #22

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    If he was as good as you say, why did he end up on the banks of the Thames ? No one else, here or abroad , was interested in him.
    I don't think you know who was interested in him misery guts but there'll definitely be more after this season, 9 goals and 10 assists in 21 games so far. Just enjoy a Welsh player doing well

  3. #23

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird View Post
    He's really PL qualityÖ..
    Hopefully thatís true, but Wilson remains to be proven at the top level.

    Heís obviously more than decent at Championship level and often shines against the poorest sides, but the Premier League is a different proposition altogether.

  4. #24

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Hopefully thatís true, but Wilson remains to be proven at the top level.

    Heís obviously more than decent at Championship level and often shines against the poorest sides, but the Premier League is a different proposition altogether.
    In his sole PL season, he was joint top scorer with Callum Wilson in a poor Bournemouth side that got relegated (7 goals in 31 games).

    I'm not saying he's "made it" at that level, but he didn't look a fish out of water either.

  5. #25

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    In a nutshell. I'd call it foresight and ambition, something conspicuously.lacking at this club.
    apart from the foresight and ambition when we signed him last season?

  6. #26

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    apart from the foresight and ambition when we signed him last season?
    That didn't last long though did it? By the way you also need the right management, coaching and personnel in place to truly make it happen. Again lacking in this club.

  7. #27

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead View Post
    In his sole PL season, he was joint top scorer with Callum Wilson in a poor Bournemouth side that got relegated (7 goals in 31 games).

    I'm not saying he's "made it" at that level, but he didn't look a fish out of water either.
    Agree. I think he'll kick on further in this Fulham team if they go up.

  8. #28

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    If he was as good as you say, why did he end up on the banks of the Thames ? No one else, here or abroad , was interested in him.
    In the heart of West London? playing for a decent footballing team with realistic EPL aspirations? Oh, I dunno.

  9. #29

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Hopefully thatís true, but Wilson remains to be proven at the top level.

    Heís obviously more than decent at Championship level and often shines against the poorest sides, but the Premier League is a different proposition altogether.
    Agreed. Wilson had his fair share of anonymous performances for us last season as well.

  10. #30

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Hopefully that’s true, but Wilson remains to be proven at the top level.

    He’s obviously more than decent at Championship level and often shines against the poorest sides, but the Premier League is a different proposition altogether.
    I've got a feeling we've had this exact conversation before but I'm going to do it anyway. He had 7 goals in 31 starts in the PL for a struggling Bournemouth team. Not world beating but not bad either for a young midfielder in his first full season. Buendia by comparison this year has 1 goal in 17 starts so far

  11. #31

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I've got a feeling we've had this exact conversation before but I'm going to do it anyway. He had 7 goals in 31 starts in the PL for a struggling Bournemouth team. Not world beating but not bad either for a young midfielder in his first full season. Buendia by comparison this year has 1 goal in 17 starts so far
    A surprise, therefore, that he has spent the subsequent two seasons in the Championship and never made a single Premier League appearance (not even as a sub) for Liverpool. Why do you think that is?

  12. #32

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    A surprise, therefore, that he has spent the subsequent two seasons in the Championship and never made a single Premier League appearance (not even as a sub) for Liverpool. Why do you think that is?
    Yet heís only 24. When he was 20 he was having an outstanding season for Derby. Heís head and shoulders above the young city players being talked about in other threads. If even one of those comes close to being as good as him Iíll be both flabbergasted and delighted

  13. #33

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I don't think you know who was interested in him misery guts but there'll definitely be more after this season, 9 goals and 10 assists in 21 games so far. Just enjoy a Welsh player doing well
    If any Premier League club wanted him they would have signed him. Heís a championship player and thatís all. If he ever makes a consistent Premier League player , Iíll show my backside in Sports Direct. I agree with one thing you stated- heís a Welsh player whoís currently doing well. But never in the Premier League. Come back on here in the distant future and prove me wrong.And keep reading my posts, youíll learn something. Itís called being realistic.

  14. #34

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    Yet heís only 24. When he was 20 he was having an outstanding season for Derby. Heís head and shoulders above the young city players being talked about in other threads. If even one of those comes close to being as good as him Iíll be both flabbergasted and delighted
    25 in a couple of months. Heís a player of considerable ability, thereís absolutely no doubt about that, but Klopp obviously didnít fancy him (most of Liverpoolís youngsters get game time in league matches if theyíre deemed good enough - even Marko Grujic made 8 sub appearances in the Premier League).

    Wilsonís not a guaranteed starter for Wales, either. The fact that heís spent most of his career to date in the Championship must mean something.

    He put in some fine performances for City last season, most notably against the divisionís weaker sides, but he was anonymous in some and a bit petulant in others.

    I donít quite know what it is about Wilson that has resulted in a situation whereby a player with his natural ability is still in the Championship. Inconsistency maybe? Time is still very much on his side but heís got a lot left to prove in my opinion.

  15. #35

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    A surprise, therefore, that he has spent the subsequent two seasons in the Championship and never made a single Premier League appearance (not even as a sub) for Liverpool. Why do you think that is?
    Because he's not good enough for Liverpool but I absolutely think that worse players than Harry Wilson have played consistently in the Premier League

  16. #36

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    If any Premier League club wanted him they would have signed him. He’s a championship player and that’s all. If he ever makes a consistent Premier League player , I’ll show my backside in Sports Direct. I agree with one thing you stated- he’s a Welsh player who’s currently doing well. But never in the Premier League. Come back on here in the distant future and prove me wrong.And keep reading my posts, you’ll learn something. It’s called being realistic.
    No thanks, if I learn something new this year it'll hopefully be a language not how to be a miserable old man

  17. #37

    Re: Harry Wilson

    I think hes a bit of a luxury player.

    Hes not good enough for the top PL clubs thats for sure.

    He got a lot of attacking ability but not sure his all round game is that strong.

    Also whats his best position. Wide , no 10? If his all round game was better maybe for Wales he could play midfield. As it is we play a L1 player.

    Do teams battling to stay in the League see Wilson as a player they want to add to the ranks. The answer it seems is no especially with a large fee involved.

  18. #38

    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Agreed. Wilson had his fair share of anonymous performances for us last season as well.
    In addition to being surrounded by less than average players I think he suffered with frustration. Many times he was running around almost looking for a red card. Was not suited to City style of being unable to pass and move.

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    Re: Harry Wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivortheengine View Post
    If he was as good as you say, why did he end up on the banks of the Thames ? No one else, here or abroad , was interested in him.
    Because he was not playing well on a consistent basis?

    Fulham play the game in a manner that allows him to play to his potential more often.

    I suspect that if he was to maintain the standards shown since his move to Fulham then a top 10 premier club might be interested.

  20. #40

    Re: Harry Wilson

    He destroyed us last night. His work rate was phenomenal. However he wasn’t rated by the Bournemouth fans and has yet to prove he is anything better than a high end Championship player.

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