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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Majority of folk I know disagree with Drakeford and that's been enforced since the Omicron , political point scoring at its worst.
    Stan and LOM mates in 'Disagree with Drakeford' Shocker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Stan and LOM mates in 'Disagree with Drakeford' Shocker
    Incredible isn’t it, I post a survey of a thousand people that shows sixty per cent to seventeen per cent (a huge margin) in favour of something and those on here who fall into the minority on here refuse to believe it reflects public thinking - out of the thousand, six hundred feel one way and one hundred and seventy another, I think that’s probably outside the margin of error for the poll, but it can’t be right because their mates are agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    ......it can’t be right because their mates are agree with them.
    Tuerto's my mate. He doesn't agree with me.

    I'd be genuinely staggered if the results of that poll were an accurate reflection of the way the wider Welsh public is thinking, but these are very strange times. And the timing of the poll (assuming it was carried out very recently) is also telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Tuerto's my mate. He doesn't agree with me.

    I'd be genuinely staggered if the results of that poll were an accurate reflection of the way the wider Welsh public is thinking, but these are very strange times. And the timing of the poll (assuming it was carried out very recently) is also telling.
    If it was a Brexit like 52/48, I’d agree, but even 60/40 is pretty conclusive and well beyond the margin of error in such polls. As I said when I posted the link, I’m surprised by the result, but I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    If it was a Brexit like 52/48, I’d agree, but even 60/40 is pretty conclusive and well beyond the margin of error in such polls. As I said when I posted the link, I’m surprised by the result, but I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.
    I'm not surprised. What i hear is people saying that they just don't like Mark Drakeford, his demeanour, personality etc. I have to be straight with you though. Most of the people who i encounter on a daily basis are as thick as shit, i mean really stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    As I said when I posted the link, I’m surprised by the result, but I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.
    Presumably, it isn't wrong. That was how things worked out when those 1,006 people were polled. But does that mean the wider Welsh public is thinking along similar lines? Who knows? So much would depend on who was polled, when they were polled, what was in the news at that precise point in time, what the personal circumstances of those polled were, etc etc.

    In my experience, the 'neither' option would win such a poll by a landslide, and that's by no means restricted to the views of my friends either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Presumably, it isn't wrong. That was how things worked out when those 1,006 people were polled. But does that mean the wider Welsh public is thinking along similar lines? Who knows? So much would depend on who was polled, when they were polled, what was in the news at that precise point in time, what the personal circumstances of those polled were, etc etc.

    In my experience, the 'neither' option would win such a poll by a landslide, and that's by no means restricted to the views of my friends either.
    Having seen Drakeford on TV this morning having is usual bash at the Westminster Government for ' abandoning the science' while he is keeping people safe in Wales, I wonder, if Labour were in power in Westminster, how much more aligned we in Wales would be to England's Covid rules and regulations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Having seen Drakeford on TV this morning having is usual bash at the Westminster Government for ' abandoning the science' while he is keeping people safe in Wales, I wonder, if Labour were in power in Westminster, how much more aligned we in Wales would be to England's Covid rules and regulations?
    I see that the BMA were quite critical on England basically abandoning all restrictions, because the PM lied about having a party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Having seen Drakeford on TV this morning having is usual bash at the Westminster Government for ' abandoning the science' while he is keeping people safe in Wales, I wonder, if Labour were in power in Westminster, how much more aligned we in Wales would be to England's Covid rules and regulations?
    I think we would very much be aligned to them.

    However I dont think Englands rules would be what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Having seen Drakeford on TV this morning having is usual bash at the Westminster Government for ' abandoning the science' while he is keeping people safe in Wales, I wonder, if Labour were in power in Westminster, how much more aligned we in Wales would be to England's Covid rules and regulations?
    FOI request reveals Welsh Government have no evidence for the imposed restrictions and closure of Nightclubs in December.


    https://twitter.com/statsjamie/statu...796407303?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.
    Sorry for replying to the same quote twice, but I've just read the whole article and I'd like you to work this one out if you can, because I most definitely can't:

    Apparently, 60% of the 1,006 people polled believe the Welsh approach has been favourable to the English approach, but only 47% of the same people think the Welsh Government should decide which Covid-19 measures are introduced! Just 17% allegedly said they prefer the English approach, and yet 40% would prefer Westminster to make the decisions!


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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    If it was a Brexit like 52/48, I’d agree, but even 60/40 is pretty conclusive and well beyond the margin of error in such polls. As I said when I posted the link, I’m surprised by the result, but I really can’t see how it can be wrong when the figures are so much in favour of the Welsh Government’s approach.
    Didn't the poll also show that of people in England, as many people there thought the Welsh approach was better as the English one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Tuerto's my mate. He doesn't agree with me.

    I'd be genuinely staggered if the results of that poll were an accurate reflection of the way the wider Welsh public is thinking, but these are very strange times. And the timing of the poll (assuming it was carried out very recently) is also telling.
    oddly enough, i would say that the figures are probably quite accurate I think that if another poll was carried out asking a thousand people if They like Mark Drakeford, the 60% would be reversed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    oddly enough, i would say that the figures are probably quite accurate.
    Of course, we have to make some allowances for those among us who want Wales to beat England at everything "even if it's tiddlywinks....."


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Of course, we have to make some allowances for those among us who want Wales to beat England at everything "even if it's tiddlywinks....."

    I hope that you're not referring to me Not a Nationalist bone in my body, and i hate Tiddlywinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I hope that you're not referring to me
    No, but you can imagine the response from some.....

    "Wales see butt, innit? Anyone but the English."

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Incredible isn’t it, I post a survey of a thousand people that shows sixty per cent to seventeen per cent (a huge margin) in favour of something and those on here who fall into the minority on here refuse to believe it reflects public thinking - out of the thousand, six hundred feel one way and one hundred and seventy another, I think that’s probably outside the margin of error for the poll, but it can’t be right because their mates are agree with them.
    I think people may have a different view of him if he was more transparent with the data he releases ,that said he’s not the only one to mislead the public.

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