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Thread: IF Drakeford says...

  1. #161

    Re: IF Drakeford says...

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    A sample size of 1,000 is sufficient for polling. They aren't there to say "exactly this amount of people think this", they're just an indicator "60% of our sample think this, its probably about that nationwide"
    Thanks, although I was already fully aware of how polls work.

    1,000 people (from who knows where) were apparently polled. That led Walesonline to produce a headline which read: "Almost Two Thirds Of People In Wales Say They Prefer Mark Drakeford's Approach to Covid to England's."

    Which is, of course, utter horse shit.

  2. #162

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thanks, although I was already fully aware of how polls work.

    1,000 people (from who knows where) were apparently polled. That led Walesonline to produce a headline which read: "Almost Two Thirds Of People In Wales Say They Prefer Mark Drakeford's Approach to Covid to England's."

    Which is, of course, utter horse shit.
    Indeed. It could be more or less than that. What we might think due to our own bubble of friends isn't necessarily what everyone thinks.

  3. #163

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thanks, although I was already fully aware of how polls work.

    1,000 people (from who knows where) were apparently polled. That led Walesonline to produce a headline which read: "Almost Two Thirds Of People In Wales Say They Prefer Mark Drakeford's Approach to Covid to England's."

    Which is, of course, utter horse shit.
    Of course it is , and if it isnít , why wouldnít anybody want a return to normality ?

  4. #164

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Of course it is , and if it isnít , why wouldnít anybody want a return to normality ?
    I think most people want a return to some sort of normality but there is also an acceptance that I find from most people I speak to for a need for some caution and desire for safety. I spoke to a schoolfriend of mine on zoom for the first time in 2 years last weekend. Apart from going to work he hasn't socialised since the first lockdown. Some in his wider family have been the same. I know others who have been the same.

    I work with 3 choirs and all of them have had members not returning (and we're not talking about one or two). Other organisations have said the same.

    I've been quite happy to go out as often as I could, to meet up with people etc. Do I care if I have to book or wear a mask or keep some distancing? Not if that prevents someone potentially being ill.

  5. #165

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I spoke to a schoolfriend of mine on zoom for the first time in 2 years last weekend. Apart from going to work he hasn't socialised since the first lockdown. Some in his wider family have been the same. I know others who have been the same.
    Why? What are their reasons?

  6. #166

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thanks, although I was already fully aware of how polls work.

    1,000 people (from who knows where) were apparently polled. That led Walesonline to produce a headline which read: "Almost Two Thirds Of People In Wales Say They Prefer Mark Drakeford's Approach to Covid to England's."

    Which is, of course, utter horse shit.
    So why say "just" 1,000 people apparently in your comment? It's a perfectly acceptable amount.

    WalesOnline using a clickbait headline? I'm shocked.

  7. #167

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    So why say "just" 1,000 people apparently in your comment? It's a perfectly acceptable amount.
    Perfectly acceptable to you perhaps. To me, it's just a tiny cross-section of the population. Chester City get twice as many for their home games. Or at least they did before Drakeford's mob stepped in.

  8. #168

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    If the masks etc worked I’d probably agree with you but it appears that the countries with the most restrictive measures have the highest cases. France reported 464,769 Covid cases,UK 94,432 today and masks are mandatory outdoors. Cases in France are up 3,659% since they started vaccine passports and 26,576% since they started mask mandates in 2020,

    How can a non medical mask make any difference on transmission?

  9. #169

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think most people want a return to some sort of normality but there is also an acceptance that I find from most people I speak to for a need for some caution and desire for safety. I spoke to a schoolfriend of mine on zoom for the first time in 2 years last weekend. Apart from going to work he hasn't socialised since the first lockdown. Some in his wider family have been the same. I know others who have been the same.

    I work with 3 choirs and all of them have had members not returning (and we're not talking about one or two). Other organisations have said the same.

    I've been quite happy to go out as often as I could, to meet up with people etc. Do I care if I have to book or wear a mask or keep some distancing? Not if that prevents someone potentially being ill.
    How old are you Eric? 70’s?

  10. #170

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Perfectly acceptable to you perhaps. To me, it's just a tiny cross-section of the population. Chester City get twice as many for their home games. Or at least they did before Drakeford's mob stepped in.
    Perfectly acceptable to polling companies and people who spend their lives conducting surveys

    But you know better I guess.

  11. #171

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Perfectly acceptable to polling companies and people who spend their lives conducting surveys

    But you know better I guess.
    According to those people, Brexit would never happen and Trump would never get elected.

    But they know best, I guess.

  12. #172

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Why? What are their reasons?
    Are they just unsociable maybe? I know a few who seem to have gone completely now, ballooned in weight and never do anything. I think the fallout from what lockdowns have done is going to seep out slowly for years and years…..

  13. #173

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Are they just unsociable maybe? I know a few who seem to have gone completely now, ballooned in weight and never do anything. I think the fallout from what lockdowns have done is going to seep out slowly for years and years…..
    Meanwhile, I don't know a single person who hasn't socialised at all since the first lockdown. Even my parents have been out with friends a few times, and they're in their mid-eighties and were in the 'shielding' category when that was a thing.

  14. #174

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    I agree with this why don’t the government promote something like this

    https://twitter.com/euringer/status/...555590664?s=21

  15. #175

    Re: IF Drakeford says...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thanks, although I was already fully aware of how polls work.

    1,000 people (from who knows where) were apparently polled. That led Walesonline to produce a headline which read: "Almost Two Thirds Of People In Wales Say They Prefer Mark Drakeford's Approach to Covid to England's."

    Which is, of course, utter horse shit.
    Whatís horse shit - views that donít accord with you or a rigged poll?

  16. #176

    Re: IF Drakeford says...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Thanks, although I was already fully aware of how polls work.

    1,000 people (from who knows where) were apparently polled. That led Walesonline to produce a headline which read: "Almost Two Thirds Of People In Wales Say They Prefer Mark Drakeford's Approach to Covid to England's."

    Which is, of course, utter horse shit.
    I don't know anyone that prefers Drakeford's approach

  17. #177

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blue View Post
    What’s horse shit - views that don’t accord with you or a rigged poll?
    What's horse shit? A claim that almost two thirds of people in Wales say they prefer Mark Drakeford's approach to Covid to England's is horse shit.

    Nobody knows what percentage of the population holds that view because the population hasn't been asked.

  18. #178

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    According to those people, Brexit would never happen and Trump would never get elected.

    But they know best, I guess.
    Nah not really, a few polls said those things would happen

    Yeah they probably do know more about this than you, glad you agree

  19. #179

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan butler View Post
    I don't know anyone that prefers Drakeford's approach
    I know plenty of people who prefer Drakeford to Johnson, but most people I've spoken to (including most of those who prefer Drakeford) think they're both tossers.

  20. #180

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Nah not really, a few polls said those things would happen
    But did most of the polls say those things would happen? Nah, not really....

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