Maybe it's Beijing pulling his strings you mean?Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
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Maybe it's Beijing pulling his strings you mean?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59984380
Its not just ordering from seats though theres restrictions meaning reduced capacity in pubs.
Im quite happy sitting in a pub with table service. The landlords and staff with bills to pay are not.
Nice distraction tactic from Westminster. Blame the Chinese.
yep I thought that too, strange how this has been made public now isn't it
I agree, though I would add that people do need hospitality. For mental and even physical health and to create an economy that funds hospitals and to create a society worth living in.
Yes, a temporary shut down of hospitality may have been justified at the height of the pandemic, but now, as England has shown, doing so is just an example of flexing political muscles and being overly risk averse.
I feel incredibly sorry for anyone in hospitality, as I do for those coerced into working from home with talks of fines imposed.
He's not had a bad pandemic but Drakeford has overstepped the mark of late.
Make your mind up. In post 20 you're saying no one needs hospitality and now you're saying that what he is doing to it is wrong. You ca't have it both ways.
does anyone really believe he would have left hospitality open if he could have closed it without having to pay them compensation? Not a chance!!
He wouldn't do it because he knew Westminster was saying leave hospitality alone so they wouldn't fund it and he won't give pubs his own budget money. Pubs and restaurants are losing money rapidly, either having to have more staff for fewer customers because of table service or because the have to close as they cannot afford to operate--- but that is their choice not Drakeford's so he is not responsible.
If he could he would have shut everything down again not just people going to work, it was having to give them money that stopped him. He doesn't care if they go broke, he doesn't them anyway.
I hope with all the money he is saving with this and all the roads he is not going to build that possibly he can help NHS Wales to at least catch up with England if not better it. But I won't be holding my breath.
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Apologies to Mr Wales, it wasn't him in post 20, it was Dave blue.
Mea culpa
Tesco thought they were not , initially, so they must have been told , then they backtracked due to a public backlash.
As soon as you see the name Barry Gardiner in the media run for cover , would fit well into Corbynista Drakeford dream team
Indeed but that's a different thing.
Something will be announced tomorrow. It's the end of the main three week cycle (even though they have been having weekly updates) and already hints are being dropped. The article below is on the BBC today where Eluned Morgan is setting up a gimmee for Drakeford to knock in and be the hero.
Also Andrew RT Davies (what a pompous name) tweeted that he was glad there was going to be a review announcement tomorrow.
Swansea have already moved their game next weekend to 12:30pm expecting it to be behind closed doors. I wonder if the Gov will announce Monday 24th as the day restrictions will be lifted if data continues to support it. That way Drakeford has time to reverse it if cases go haywire, he also gets another week or so of control and it will follow one week after Scotland.
There are "very positive signs" that Wales is "coming to the peak" and "possibly turning the corner" on the coronavirus wave, a minister has said.
Health Minister Eluned Morgan spoke ahead of Friday's announcement of the latest review of Covid restrictions.
"It would be a huge, huge relief" if Wales was reaching that stage, she said.
Wales' rules were last tightened on 26 December, meaning no more than 50 people can attend a sporting event.
The rules have forced many teams to play behind closed doors.
Social distancing restrictions are also in place in businesses and a rule of six applies in hospitality venues such as pubs and restaurants.
Welsh Tory Senedd leader Andrew RT Davies called for the rule of six and sport restrictions to be scrapped.
He said it was "time to move forward as we learn to live with the virus".
Plaid also called for sport restrictions to be lifted if Wales has reached a peak.
In Scotland restrictions on large outdoor events, including football matches and concerts, will be lifted from next Monday.
Giving evidence to the Senedd Health and Social Care Committee on Thursday, Ms Morgan said: "I know that in London about 10% of the population are ill with Covid and in Wales it's about 6%.
"So that's a significant difference and, obviously, we're hoping that we're coming to the peak now.
"And if we arrive at a peak of 6% and they're at 10% then, actually, there is real cause to celebrate, that is a snapshot that you can look at.
"We are clearly keeping a very close eye on the data at the moment but there are some very positive signs, I'm pleased to say, in terms of us possibly turning the corner, which would be a huge, huge relief."
Her comments contrast with those of First Minister Mark Drakeford two days ago, when he said modelling suggested rates getting worse over the next week.
He indicated that ministers could ease restrictions in a week's time, but cautioned that it was a "big if" whether Wales would be in a position for that to happen.
Pleased a review announcement will now take place tomorrow.
— Andrew RT Davies (@AndrewRTDavies) January 13, 2022
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It’s time to move forward as we learn to live with the virus.
Scrapped in two weeks https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-59984873
all good to go for the rugby six nations
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...eford-22747787
Of course…never in doubt
This board's a bit out of step when it comes to support for devolution/independence etc
I assume it's because of the age profile
I'd love to know what sample of the population are involved in these polls. A genuine independence vote would be really interesting. Only then would we get a true picture and I suspect the turnout would be less than great.
Does this mean that there will be crowsds for the forest game?
Depends how bloody minded Drakeford is. He could open up a whole weekend of sport if he says from Fri Jan 28th, or piss everyone off if he says from Monday Jan 31st.
Possibly, but there still hasn't been any vote in Welsh history I'm aware of that has shown a majority in favour of independence (or where Plaid have got the most votes). Given what was being said in the year prior to the vote, Plaid Cymru's performance in the election last May has to be viewed as disappointing.
For myself, I've never been closer to backing an independent Wales in my life, but still have this feeling that a vote for Plaid is a wasted one and a possible way of letting the Tories take control of the Senedd - maybe there are thousands in Wales who feel like this?
As someone with 95% 'Welsh blood', I regret I find the welsh more parochial and self -obsessed than any of the other home nations. The local news is cringe-worthy, with all those 'experts' in their political field spouting the Senydd mantra for then. The National Newspaper of Wales is a joke, and the local rag is even worse - no serious critique, no counter-debate, dreadful schoolboy editorials. And now Labour & Plaid are in coalition [don't let them kid you otherwise], you have effectively the end of any democracy in Wales. Read the news - from across the border - you won't get it here - train/bus companies wanting to invest in factories in Wales being virtually told to get lost. Motorway schemes turned down to be replaced by 2 extra train stations in Newport. New homes in Wales increasing by up to 10% compared with England. Extra taxes, and when UK GOV. cuts income tax by 2% in April, you bet Wales will do it by 1%. The Wife nearly froze to death on a train from Carmathen back to Cardiff yesterday as the train didn't have any heating, or hot drinks. I call it a train, actually they're 40yr old converted diesil trams.
Working in the public sector I'm sure has been worthwhile and rewarding, but I'll be frank - work in the private sector and you'll possibly have a different outlook.
This isn't Party politics - I don't vote for this party or that one, I just have my views on a few things that may affect me, but we've been given 'independence' in all but name, and talentless, liberal, uninspiring Welshies are going to be in charge for a long long time
Who says I don’t support it?
It’s just my opinion that Drakeford and his draconian
rules and dictatorship style would not have appealed to the less informed, average Welsh voter.
There's a Cardiff uni blog that regularly posted the full results with demographic breakdown etc, I don't know if they still do it
I imagine people said similar in Scotland for a while and probably the same about a referendum on leaving the EU. Would turnout be low? To get to a referendum there'd have to be a strong enough level of support for it so there'd be motivation on both sides. You can point to the devolution referendums but they were small fry, especially compared to breaking away from the UK state entirely. I imagine turnout would be quite high as we saw in Scotland & with Brexit.
Does polling mean independence is around the corner? No, that was a sharp rise which I imagine is fairly soft. However there has been consistent support for greater powers for some time, it's quite surprising how quickly anti-devolution sentiment melted away.
Edit: Here's that blog: https://blogs.cardiff.ac.uk/electionsinwales/
And there's the rub. What percentage of the Welsh population would genuinely want to break away from the UK? I believe it would be very small. Plaid Cymru's share of the vote in Wales is consistently small - just 10% in the last general election. I think that paints a truer picture than any polls. I'm sure a reasonable percentage of people would like Wales to have a greater level of autonomy, but outright independence? I don't believe there is a widespread appetite for that despite the shambles at Westminster.
I didn't mean you in particular, just the board generally
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