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Thread: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

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    Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    They're currently nine points behind us having played one game more and they have a far superior goal difference. We still have to play them twice this season with the away game being on the final day. If they win both those games, which doesn't seem too unlikely at the moment, they would only have to take three more points than us from the remaining games to finish above us.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Nah

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    It depends if they can keep their squad together. They have to sell players at some point even though they're trying to bend the rules a bit and are turning down bids

    There is also the possibility of expulsion: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/spo...keover-6497827

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    No.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    They're currently nine points behind us having played one game more and they have a far superior goal difference. We still have to play them twice this season with the away game being on the final day. If they win both those games, which doesn't seem too unlikely at the moment, they would only have to take three more points than us from the remaining games to finish above us.
    They've won 35 points from 26 games. Over the course of a 46 game season that would give them 62 points. Take off the 21 they've been deducted and that leaves them with 41 points.

    We've got 23 points from 25 games, giving us 42 points over the course of a season.

    I wouldn't rule it out.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    What happens if they are wound up before the end of the season? Will only two clubs be relegated from the Championship?

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    What happens if they are wound up before the end of the season? Will only two clubs be relegated from the Championship?
    Probably. 3 teams would still come up as normal from League 1 and the rest would be unaffected.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    I think they have every chance of finishing above both Cardiff and Reading. Only four teams in the division have lost less games than them.
    Their next three home games are Birmingham, Hull and Peterborough. I would expect them to win the lot.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Probably. 3 teams would still come up as normal from League 1 and the rest would be unaffected.
    That's what happened when Bury went bust (3 teams relegated from League One to League Two instead of 4, with 4 teams still promoted to take their place as usual.)

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    we will finish above derby

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    well there form may suggest they will, as for our form it's depressing.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Quote Originally Posted by driver blue View Post
    well there form may suggest they will, as for our form it's depressing.
    I think realistically there's every chance; if they take 6 points off us they're almost there. Our best hope is that Barnsley and Peterborough don't start improving.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    No…..stop being a drama Queen….we outplayed the best team in the league today !! Above the Jacks definitely….play offs? …possibly.
    Keep the faith !

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    If the Derby squad of the second half of the season is the same as the first half - just maybe.

    But it won't be.

    Jagielka has gone and Derby have accepted a bid for Shinnie (from Wigan). Offers will come in for other players before the window closes. The administrators are not there to protect Rooney's squad. The mood music is getting worse. Rooney may be in the Everton dug out before the end of the window.

    They have done very well so far this season - but the wheels are coming off.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Derby v Cardiff on the last day of the season already has a feeling of being an important fixture.

    Derby’s fate going to the last game for the second successive season?

    Derby to take their revenge over Cardiff for all the abuse over the snow scandal?

    Marlon Pack to score in the last minute of the season for the second year in a row, but this time to relegate Derby?

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    On current form almost certainly. They are clearly a better team and now have hope.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    If the Derby squad of the second half of the season is the same as the first half - just maybe.

    But it won't be.

    Jagielka has gone and Derby have accepted a bid for Shinnie (from Wigan). Offers will come in for other players before the window closes. The administrators are not there to protect Rooney's squad. The mood music is getting worse. Rooney may be in the Everton dug out before the end of the window.

    They have done very well so far this season - but the wheels are coming off.
    So our best chance of avoiding relegation is for a club that has already been deducted 21 points being forced to sell their best players? What a mess.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    So our best chance of avoiding relegation is for a club that has already been deducted 21 points being forced to sell their best players? What a mess.
    If your original question had been 'are we in a mess' I doubt anyone would have disagreed.

    But Derby aside, I think we will finish the season above Barnsley, Peterborough and Reading. I have some confidence that we will also end up above Hull, Bristol City and Birmingham. That is not even 'mid table obscurity' and represents a woeful season - but I think we have enough to get safe - eventually. We will have a much better idea when the window shuts and we have played the next set of four league games.

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    I still hate Marlon Pack for scoring that late equaliser against Rotherham

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    Re: Will Derby finish above us without another points deduction?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grangenders View Post
    Derby v Cardiff on the last day of the season already has a feeling of being an important fixture.

    Derby’s fate going to the last game for the second successive season?

    Derby to take their revenge over Cardiff for all the abuse over the snow scandal?

    Marlon Pack to score in the last minute of the season for the second year in a row, but this time to relegate Derby?
    A classic position for CCFC. Memories of Preston in 2009 come to mind....for slightly different reasons of course!

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