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Thread: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

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    Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Office for Statistics for England and Wales reveals that just 17,371 deaths had Covid as the ONLY cause of death on death certs over 21 months.
    Average age at death of these was 81/82 years.
    The rest had other underlying health issues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHv...r.JohnCampbell

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Office for Statistics for England and Wales reveals that just 17,371 deaths had Covid as the ONLY cause of death on death certs over 21 months.
    Average age at death of these was 81/82 years.
    The rest had other underlying health issues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHv...r.JohnCampbell
    Wouldn't things like pneumonia , kidney failure or other conditions be added as well if brought on by Covid.

    Or is it fact that all the other people who died had underlying health conditions? Something I very much doubt.

    Also for example high blood pressure is an underlying health condition. Ive got it hereditary. Im fit not overweight. Now im pretty certain that if your fit and healthy and passed away with Covid and had a condition such as this high blood pressure diabetes they wouldnt add that to the death certificate if it isnt the cause of death.

    Im sure that there are many thousands more have added on their certificates conditions brought on by Covid.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Office for Statistics for England and Wales reveals that just 17,371 deaths had Covid as the ONLY cause of death on death certs over 21 months.
    Average age at death of these was 81/82 years.
    The rest had other underlying health issues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHv...r.JohnCampbell
    Yep it highjacked those with weakness ,and sadly accelerated deaths , I'm guessing those poor folk would have become very unwell with Flu . Sepsis , heart attacks or Pneumonia and even died , does explain why we had so many care home deaths in Wales , Scotland ,NI and England .

    Thank god we mad a good fist of funding the vaccine and driving the jabs into arms as it could have worse .

    Think obesity and diabetics played a big part in this . and the UK has a very % compared to a lot of European countries in this area .

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Do the numbers for deaths from Dementia only, or AIDS only. Most death certificates will have multiple causes of deaths regardless of whether the person had Covid or not.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Excess deaths is the statistic that you want to be looking at, and despite unprecedented restrictions on many aspects of daily life there have been a huge number of them in this country since th start of the pandemic.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Excess deaths is the statistic that you want to be looking at, and despite unprecedented restrictions on many aspects of daily life there have been a huge number of them in this country since th start of the pandemic.
    And maybe it should be borne in mind that Covid possibly caused more than the number of 'excess deaths' deaths as Covid regs must have reduced the number of those who would have died with seasonal flu.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Excess deaths is the statistic that you want to be looking at, and despite unprecedented restrictions on many aspects of daily life there have been a huge number of them in this country since th start of the pandemic.
    Around 140,000 excess deaths based on projections from previous years isn't it?

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    And maybe it should be borne in mind that Covid possibly caused more than the number of 'excess deaths' deaths as Covid regs must have reduced the number of those who would have died with seasonal flu.
    I suppose some people may have also died from ailments that they felt uncomfortable reporting during Lockdown.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    See OP

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    See OP
    Incredible really

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Incredible really
    Yeah. Look forward to Dr John's analysis and evaluation in due course.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Incredible really
    What's incredible? What am I missing?

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    What's incredible? What am I missing?
    No mention of it on ITV C4 or BBC.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    No mention of it on ITV C4 or BBC.
    No mention of what? That only a small number of people die from Covid-19 alone? If so, didn't we all know that already?

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Well yes , but not everyone thinks that hence the difference of opinions

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Well yes , but not everyone thinks that hence the difference of opinions
    Hardly news though, is it? Seems like one of those things that will set the conspiracy theorists off, but most reasonable people are, I'm pretty sure, already fully aware that only a tiny percentage of people with no underlying health issues die from Covid-19 alone and the vast majority of those are elderly.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Hardly news though, is it? Seems like one of those things that will set the conspiracy theorists off, but most reasonable people are, I'm pretty sure, already fully aware that only a tiny percentage of people with no underlying health issues die from Covid-19 alone and the vast majority of those are elderly.
    To put this into perspective, deaths from flu & pneumonia in 2018 was 29,516.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...luandpneumonia

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    To put this into perspective, deaths from flu & pneumonia in 2018 was 29,516.
    Great. So what were the totals of deaths from Covid and pneumonia in 2020 and 2021?

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    To put this into perspective, deaths from flu & pneumonia in 2018 was 29,516.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/trans...luandpneumonia
    Pneumonia is predominantly the cause of death with people who have diseases that affect the lungs or heart.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    The ONS gives figures weekly based on all deaths registered involving Covid-19, according to what a doctor puts on the death certificate, whether in or out of hospital
    The virus may not be the main cause of death, just a factor. There does not need to have been a positive test - it could be it was just suspected by the doctor

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52380643

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Office for Statistics for England and Wales reveals that just 17,371 deaths had Covid as the ONLY cause of death on death certs over 21 months.
    Average age at death of these was 81/82 years.
    The rest had other underlying health issues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHv...r.JohnCampbell
    I've watched Dr Campbell regularly throughout.
    I really appreciate what he has done and how he has done it through this whole thing.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    The ONS gives figures weekly based on all deaths registered involving Covid-19, according to what a doctor puts on the death certificate, whether in or out of hospital
    The virus may not be the main cause of death, just a factor. There does not need to have been a positive test - it could be it was just suspected by the doctor
    I'm aware of this. I should think most of us are by now. But we still haven't established what it is that's so revelatory about the figures quoted in the video.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    What's incredible? What am I missing?
    Doesn't surprise me in the least that you don't 'get it'.

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    Re: Deaths from Covid ALONE between Jan 1 2020 to 30/9/2021 only 17,371

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    Doesn't surprise me in the least that you don't 'get it'.
    Come on then, oh great one. Let us in on the secret. Tell us another story.

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