Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
It can't be argued they are higher- as they are. However isn't there a more nuanced debate to be had around the reasons (and it won't be a single reason) for these deaths.

For example how many extra have died because of cancer due to so much of our normal NHS all but disappearing as it focused almost entirely on covid?
Of course. The effects of the pandemic are a lot more pronounced than deaths involving Covid-19 alone. That should be obvious to everyone.

As regards a debate, to be honest I've no idea what some of the people in this thread are trying to say. They talk in riddles.