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  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Am I reading this correctly? You consider the living wage to be an extravagant gesture?
    Yes there are vacancies everywhere WAG should concentrate on improving people's lives not paying someone not too where In inspiration to aspire if you pay someone to not work .

    I'm not talking about benefits but schemes announced recently to just pay 18 year old a good wage or support them in work is surely a jwhere they benefit and inspire not staying at home.

    Aspiration is important.

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    For the second time in as many weeks, the now only hourly Cardiff Bay service is cancelled at the last minute..as is the one after it. Dozens stranded, women walking into town in the dark, no announcements whatsoever...

    It's unbelievable how bad it is.

    Why do we put up with this shit in Wales?
    It's beyond hilarious you've failed to mention the decades of privatisation in our train system before this. TFW ordered new trains as soon as possible once they were in charge. What else can they do? Just magic up train and staff?

  3. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    It's beyond hilarious you've failed to mention the decades of privatisation in our train system before this. TFW ordered new trains as soon as possible once they were in charge. What else can they do? Just magic up train and staff?
    Much of the problem was with the previous franchise with ATW. Both Welsh Government and ATW didn't expect a great deal of growth in passenger numbers. Passenger numbers did grow, quite substantially in some areas, but there were no plans during the length of the franchise to accommodate the higher numbers.

    If a bus operator wants to increase services they can train new bus drivers in a few weeks and purchase new or second hand buses relatively easily. If a train operator wants to increase services, they may need to train new drivers on routes - some routes need many months or more than a year to learn. Picking up new or second hand trains is virtually impossible.

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Yes there are vacancies everywhere WAG should concentrate on improving people's lives not paying someone not too where In inspiration to aspire if you pay someone to not work .

    I'm not talking about benefits but schemes announced recently to just pay 18 year old a good wage or support them in work is surely a jwhere they benefit and inspire not staying at home.

    Aspiration is important.
    I've read this through a few times and I have no idea what you're on about.

  5. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I've read this through a few times and I have no idea what you're on about.
    Not my problem .

    Just think government should fund people to go to work and subsidy or fund business to take those that at a low point or disadvantaged in some way ..

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Not my problem .

    Just think government should fund people to go to work and subsidy or fund business to take those that at a low point or disadvantaged in some way ..
    Isn't that what paying the living wage does? Did you mean a universal basic income or something similar with your original post?

  7. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Not my problem .

    Just think government should fund people to go to work and subsidy or fund business to take those that at a low point or disadvantaged in some way ..
    That sounds like socialism.

  8. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    It's beyond hilarious you've failed to mention the decades of privatisation in our train system before this. TFW ordered new trains as soon as possible once they were in charge. What else can they do? Just magic up train and staff?
    I'd nationalise the whole think and build in a no strike clause with independent pay bodies as its a core part of other people's lives that has to operate so others can travel and earn .

    This is a cynical move, just as the suffering public that gave come hrough Covid some on just Furlough to be hit again by workers that were on 100% pay ..

    I'd open the barriers let the public and seek train driving skills for those key areas .

    In London hospital staff paitents rely heavily on these services as the only quick way into hospitals.

    Maybe the tube operator drivers should take a pay freeze from thier generous 50k (plus )wage to fund the lower paid staff who are on a third of that 🤔

  9. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I'd nationalise the whole think and build in a no strike clause with independent pay bodies as its a core part of other people's lives that has to operate so others can travel and earn .

    This is a cynical move, just as the suffering public that gave come hrough Covid some on just Furlough to be hit again by workers that were on 100% pay ..

    I'd open the barriers let the public and seek train driving skills for those key areas .

    In London hospital staff paitents rely heavily on these services as the only quick way into hospitals.

    Maybe the tube operator drivers should take a pay freeze from thier generous 50k (plus )wage to fund the lower paid staff who are on a third of that 🤔
    More socialism

  10. #50

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    Labour activists will say, or imply, that TfW and every other public service ran poorly in Wales is down to central government not giving Drakey what's due under the Barnett formula purely to make Welsh Labour look bad.

  11. #51

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    Sounds like the Tory master plan is working.................
    It's called a 'race to the bottom' 🤡

  12. #52

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    The north to south tfw services are very frustrating at present. They've got some really nice sets of loco and coaches that are meant to be operating the majority of services a day. Down to a lack of crew trained on them they are often subbed out for a rickety 2 car train that should be doing local journeys.

    I donít think covid helped their training and bit they really should have done better. I've said before, but I really do feel like tfw took their eye off the ball in terms of the present. I've got no doubt it will be good in future, but it's really not up to scratch at present.

  13. #53

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    You have to wonder how much training is required to drive a train. Stick to the speed limit along different parts of the route. Stop at a red sign, start at a green one. The control panel looks simple enough to learn what's what.

    Perhaps most of their, and the guards', teaching surrounds diversity and being sympathetic to transitioning blokes intent on becoming bearded lesbians.

  14. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Its been emotional View Post
    Sounds like the Tory master plan is working.................
    It's called a 'race to the bottom' ��
    You are aware how much the Tories spent (of our money) keeping the rail industry going for many many months during Covid when barely a soul was using them of course?

  15. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    You have to wonder how much training is required to drive a train. Stick to the speed limit along different parts of the route. Stop at a red sign, start at a green one. The control panel looks simple enough to learn what's what.
    I love people who say nonsense like this. Ignorance is bliss.

    I'm not a train driver but I know one and I asked him about it once.

    It's obvious to say it, but with driving a train, safety is paramount. They're not vehicles that can stop quickly like a car. I understand that a train doing 70mph would take about a mile to stop. I dare say the basics of driving a train seem straightforward, but that's not all there is to it. It's not like having a car driving licence and being able to use it on any roads you want. A train driver cannot simply just drive a train wherever they like.

    Train drivers can only operate on routes and lines on which they have been trained and they need to demonstrate intimate knowledge of that route. Literally from start to finish they need to know every station, speed limit, signal, even gradients and be able to prove they have that knowledge. If a train driver doesn't operate a route for 6 months they need to be put back into training for that route.

  16. #56

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    There used to be a direct bus service from Cardiff to Swansea that took about a hour, that's gone. Try getting to Swansea by bus now.

  17. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfresco View Post
    There used to be a direct bus service from Cardiff to Swansea that took about a hour, that's gone. Try getting to Swansea by bus now.
    There shouldnít be any need for a bus to Swansea.

    Buses should be local routes only and thatís why we need a integrated transport service

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    Re: Transport for Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    There shouldn’t be any need for a bus to Swansea.

    Buses should be local routes only and that’s why we need a integrated transport service
    I have just booked tickets to London with train line and the first thing on the booking page was "Have you considered taking the bus"
    The train fare was 68 quid, the bus less than 20.
    A train ticket seller telling me to use the bus!!!!!

  19. #59

    Re: Transport for Wales

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    There shouldn’t be any need for a bus to Swansea.

    Buses should be local routes only and that’s why we need a integrated transport service
    If you didn't have a car how would you get to Porthcawl?

  20. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    It's beyond hilarious you've failed to mention the decades of privatisation in our train system before this. TFW ordered new trains as soon as possible once they were in charge. What else can they do? Just magic up train and staff?
    It's beyond hilarious that someone has the temerity to be pissed off about trains not turning up and blames the owners and operators as opposed to a process that happened 25 years ago.

    I just want the trains to work Doucas. Couldnt care less who runs them. In this case, they are run by a not for profit company wholly owned by the Welsh Govt - which is presumably a category on pornhub for you?

    Anyway, my original comment, made many months ago was more a frustration at the WG's slow route out of Covid

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