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    Re: Covid Rules Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Fair play, that's weapons grade bollocks.

    Prove it if you’re so sure.The evidence presented suggests otherwise , all it does is slow it, but as soon as things open up the virus does what it’s meant to do.

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    Re: Covid Rules Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Prove it if you’re so sure.The evidence presented suggests otherwise , all it does is slow it, but as soon as things open up the virus does what it’s meant to do.
    You do realize China managed to effectively eradicate the virus with extremely strict lockdowns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    You do realize China managed to effectively eradicate the virus with extremely strict lockdowns?
    I realise that CCP are economic with the truth

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    Re: Covid Rules Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    I realise that CCP are economic with the truth
    New Zealand - 53 deaths

    UK - 159,000+ deaths

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    New Zealand - 53 deaths

    UK - 159,000+ deaths
    yaaaay borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    You do realize China managed to effectively eradicate the virus with extremely strict lockdowns?
    they still completely lock down cities of millions when cases start to rise, recently Baise with 4 million people only had only 135 cases with 2 cases being Omicron ( if you believe what they say ) and they completely locked down hard

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...e-b981395.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    You do realize China managed to effectively eradicate the virus with extremely strict lockdowns?
    How do you know? Dont believe a word of what the communists released info

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    Re: Covid Rules Collapsing

    Just to clarify (mainly, it appears, for Jimbo's sake).

    TWGL1: "... it seems to me that regardless of lockdowns , masks, social distancing and arbitrary rules it makes little or no difference."

    Az City: "... that's weapons grade bollocks."

    TWGL1 asks for evidence of mitigation strategies making a difference.

    Az City: China and its extreme lockdowns suppressing the virus.

    Few different posters: Don't believe Chinese statistics.

    Az City: Compare NZ with UK.

    So, to summarize for the slow ones at the back (Jimbo), the argument is whether mitigation strategies for Covid 19 have made any difference. If you take the cases of NZ (instituted swift and comprehensive lockdown including an almost complete ban on travel) and the UK (did not have such stringent measures), I think it's fairly obvious that measures to mitigate the spread of the virus DO work.

    Is it easier for NZ to do what it did compared with the UK because of its physical geography? Probably but that's irrelevant (Jimbo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Just to clarify (mainly, it appears, for Jimbo's sake).

    TWGL1: "... it seems to me that regardless of lockdowns , masks, social distancing and arbitrary rules it makes little or no difference."

    Az City: "... that's weapons grade bollocks."

    TWGL1 asks for evidence of mitigation strategies making a difference.

    Az City: China and its extreme lockdowns suppressing the virus.

    Few different posters: Don't believe Chinese statistics.

    Az City: Compare NZ with UK.

    So, to summarize for the slow ones at the back (Jimbo), the argument is whether mitigation strategies for Covid 19 have made any difference. If you take the cases of NZ (instituted swift and comprehensive lockdown including an almost complete ban on travel) and the UK (did not have such stringent measures), I think it's fairly obvious that measures to mitigate the spread of the virus DO work.

    Is it easier for NZ to do what it did compared with the UK because of its physical geography? Probably but that's irrelevant (Jimbo).

    As of today, the lockdown strategy in respect of Covid appears to have been correct for NZ , However, I think it would be advisable to look at how they are doing in the next quarter to establish if it’s been a success ?

    A few articles here offer an interesting perspective , so the jury is still out as cases are rising exponentially

    https://www.newscientist.com/article...ovid-strategy/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nally-cracking

    https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj....SAAEgIfQ_D_BwE

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    Re: Covid Rules Collapsing

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    As of today, the lockdown strategy in respect of Covid appears to have been correct for NZ , However, I think it would be advisable to look at how they are doing in the next quarter to establish if it’s been a success ?

    A few articles here offer an interesting perspective , so the jury is still out as cases are rising exponentially

    https://www.newscientist.com/article...ovid-strategy/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nally-cracking

    https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj....SAAEgIfQ_D_BwE
    Is the argument you're making here that 'Covid will have its way with a population over the long term and that all mitigation strategies do is delay inevitable deaths'?

    Because if it is, that's bollocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Is the argument you're making here that 'Covid will have its way with a population over the long term and that all mitigation strategies do is delay inevitable deaths'?

    Because if it is, that's bollocks.
    I don’t agree , but you’re entitled to your opinion, as I said , as they have only recently relaxed the draconian measures, I’d personally prefer to see how it pans out. If it was such a success then other countries would have taken the same pathway after about 6 months in, however they didn’t for reasons already debated in detail on here and in the press.

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