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lets get life back to normal
But things are still not normal, by 2019/pre-corona standards.Originally Posted by blue matt
lets get life back to normal
True, but how long do we do this " not normal life " for ? ? ?
we can't keep it going forever, we know the risks now, my mum is vulnerable , so she doesn't go to busy place and wears a mask all the time when out of the house, that makes sense for her to do that, but why should we all live like that
Normality, imo, is a concept that always changes. We all should live with masks, because it is a small thing to do against a disease that can cause significant illness among many people.
Look at other illnesses: If I shag multiple people without rubber, or drink dirty water, or drink unpasteurised milk, or eat raw chicken, many people would rightfully call me an idiot. Likewise, if a restaurant served the dirty water, unpasteurised milk, and raw chicken, would they even remain open?
Excellent point, well made.
I actually enjoy wearing a mask with my wayfarer knock-offs and ball cap I look like a bank robber. And I utter obscenities at the Trumpers as I walk past. (They can't pick up who said it.)
lets get life back to normal
I don't think you need to go to far to join the dots between Boris removing restrictions and the letters not coming in. Calling it 'living with Covid' feels like a bit of an own goal in the making too. At least it will make the people too selfish to stick a mask on for 5 mins in the supermarket feel emboldened by their brave stance though, I despair.
Just the two hundred and seventy six deaths today
What point are you making. An average of 1700 people die every day in a typical year in the UK.Just the two hundred and seventy six deaths today
more than 450 cancer deaths per day in the UK
How many caught it off someone else?more than 450 cancer deaths per day in the UK
how many died because covid paranoia closed cancer wards
Two questions which the public should be told the answer to regarding 276 deaths yesterday;Just the two hundred and seventy six deaths today
1)How many of those died with covid and not of covid?
2)How many of those were not vaccinated?
I agree about the vaccinated figures, but have never really understood the of or with argument.
Perhaps LOM didn't notice those in his raven excitement.Just the two hundred and seventy six deaths today
You guys can stay locked up if you want, it's entirely up to you.
Likewise anyone who wishes to can and should continue to wear a mask.
Why do you think that posters who support maintaining some Covid rules want to 'stay locked up'?
We have not had a full lock down at any stage.
However Covid continues to be a major risk (to anyone - but especially the elderly or vulnerable) and sensible precautions could prevent hundreds of premature and distressing deaths every day.
Your faux libertarianism, your invention of alternative opinions, and your constant government apologist stance is just ludicrous.
There is a sensible middle ground if only you would look for it.
Get a grip FFS!
As covid has become less deadly so restrictions have reduced. So it becomes less deadly still does it not make sense to continue to remove restrictions?
You can stay at home if you wish. You can wear a mask if you wish. Same as it ever was for the elderly and vulnerable.
And as for 'invention of alternative opinions' and ' 'constant government apologist' line, that's not true is it? I think Boris should resign and have said it dozens of times, but thanks for making that up!
The reality is we need to live with this as we do other illnesses. As it stands my local surgery isnt even open. People have to go more than 2km to the doctor's, so I think we need to recognise the restrictions even currently in place also have their impacts.
As stated, if you are concerned you can keep yourself inside and continue to wear a mask etc
The 7 day average for deaths hasn't really changed for a month now, what source do you use?
I agree that we need to live it as we do with other illnesses. We cook our chicken to prevent salmonella, we have good sewage to prevent cholera, some places require quarantine for illnesses such as mumps and measles.
So I think we should mask up, have good ventilation and quarantine measures.
Also the mask is to protect other people btw, so your point of making masks seem individualistic is invalid.
Absolutely. From day 1 the point of the mask wasn't self protection at all.
Yep, though FFP2 and FFP3s on the other hand are more (not fully ofc) for self protection. With other masks, such as surgical and cloth, it relies on most people complying
I think it would be sensible to have everything opened up but perhaps have mandatory mask wearing.
Here in Uganda I think we have sensible restrictions. Everything is now open but mask wearing still required on public transport and in shops. Also, temperature checks done before entering anywhere. But everywhere is pretty much open.
But yeah, I don't advocate for any more restrictions than those.
It does seem thar Omicron ripped through Kampala in December and January so everyone, even the unvaccinated, have some level of immunity, I guess we don't know how long for..
I think people here have just decided to live with it... We don't have the.money for furlough etx (well we do but it sits in the pockets of the MPS).
Interesting that they're still doing temperature checks. There's not really evidence that covid has a link with temperature now, so this one is probably more for show..And I guess the checks themselves are not very reliable.
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