Ukraine Conflict Getting Very Close

[goats]

Putin's played the long game. He had a 10 year plan. Funded Brexit to create disharmony in Europe, fund Trump's conspiracy plans and anarchy in America, make countries such as Germany dependant on Russian oil so they don't want sanctions. UK did **** all when Russian spies poisoned brits on UK soil. We did **** all when Russia bombed Syria. He has played us for fools, tested the water in the Crimea. He has China as an ally, supporting their lack of human rights. He funded oligarchs to fund the Tory party. So now he knows he can just do what the hell he likes.

All that just for a never ending war with Ukraine? Strange

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Whose side is China on?

China is involved in its own expansion project in the Pacific and claiming territorial waters and islands not nternationally recognised as belonging to them hitherto - and Taiwan is a long-term desired acquisition for them.

[Rjk]

China is involved in its own expansion project in the Pacific and claiming territorial waters and islands not nternationally recognised as belonging to them hitherto - and Taiwan is a long-term desired acquisition for them.

it could well be that China will use the west's focus on Russia as the opportunity it needs to conduct further expansion.

I'm absolutely not an expert， but from my very limited guesswork I think it would most likely involve consolidating it's controversial territorial waters claims, and displaying more overt control over Hong Kong and Macau .
just my feeling bit I think they're prepared to play the long game with Taiwan - it isn't going anywhere.

[Divine Wright]

Unlike Ukraine, Bulgaria and Romania are members of NATO. Invading either of those two countries would be on a different level altogether.

I wouldn't put it past Putin at this point.

[blue matt]

Unlike Ukraine, Bulgaria and Romania are members of NATO. Invading either of those two countries would be on a different level altogether.

and that is why any country on the Russian border needed to get under the umbrella

would it have made a difference ? ? ? he certainly wouldn't have had free rein to roll in tanks thats for sure

[Rjk]

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no idea what this is based on, but it's pretty terrifying.

apparently from someone called Peter Zeihan.
found on Reddit

[blue matt]

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no idea what this is based on, but it's pretty terrifying.

apparently from someone called Peter Zeihan.
found on Reddit

might aswell go the whole way and retake, Hungary, Romania and Poland

interesting to see Germany then, with the red army camped on a border

[Father Dougal]

Just read this whole thread for the first time. Lots of predictions that were way off already but I wouldn't hold that against them and quote message them to show them up-but it's interesting to see how certain some people were that certain things would or wouldn't happen...... Id say bare that in mind when making future predictions from here.

[MOZZER2]

UEFA Champions League final will be played in Paris, after it was moved from Russia.

[goats]

UEFA Champions League final will be played in Paris, after it was moved from Russia.

Now kick them out of the World Cup….

[Cleve van Leef]

Now kick them out of the World Cup….

If they have any teeth they will, if they have any conscience they will. That country should be ostracised from everything. But at the end of the day money talks and they still have plenty, so don’t hold your breath for any significant sanctions from FIFA, UEFA, IOC, or any Government.

[splott parker]

UEFA Champions League final will be played in Paris, after it was moved from Russia.

I’d heard that France have surrendered

[Tuerto]

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no idea what this is based on, but it's pretty terrifying.

apparently from someone called Peter Zeihan.
found on Reddit

There are plenty of things based on no evidence that are pretty terrifying. Can't we just concentrate on what we know?

[xsnaggle]

might aswell go the whole way and retake, Hungary, Romania and Poland

interesting to see Germany then, with the red army camped on a border

Interesting map.
Azerbaijan is a very oil-rich state the supplies it to the European countries and also has 2 gas pipelines which run to Turkey and supply Europe, deliberately built to avoid Russian soil and to be a foil to Russian control of gas.
They also have a very strong military ally in Turkey who supplied them with drones and missile in the recent battle with Armenia. And Turkey is a member of NATO. If it has troops in Azerbaijan when Russian forces cross the border it could be the trigger for full on war.
If Russian determined to do to Azerbaijan what it is doing to Ukraine I think the reaction they get will be a lot different.

[Cleve van Leef]

Putin is now upping the ante, he’s now putting Russia on Nuclear alert!

[truthpaste]

Putin is now upping the ante, he’s now putting Russia on Nuclear alert!

Those analysing Putins posture have mentioned 'the assassins stare' - therefore at this juncture the only short road to peace and sanity in the region and beyond is the removal of Putin one way or another.
The key concern is that Putin individually has nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, nothing to lose

[bobh]

A chilling analysis of Putin -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60551140

[Rjk]

speculation on the radio just now that Putin is taking steroids for some reason, potentially cancer treatment

[Rjk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...m_source=share

feel bad for the young russian soldiers as well, they were told they were a liberating army and they would be welcomed in by the people.
morale must be pretty low once they realise that isn't the case. no wonder some have surrendered fairly easily

[Swiss Peter]

UAE's response:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2026983.html

[chrisp_1927]

UAE's response:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2026983.html

Boot Man City out the league!

[goats]

speculation on the radio just now that Putin is taking steroids for some reason, potentially cancer treatment

On his way out? Trying to take the half the world with him? Surely MI5 have a close operative over there for the last 20 years? Time to blow one’s cover and do the world a massive favour…..

[goats]

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...m_source=share

feel bad for the young russian soldiers as well, they were told they were a liberating army and they would be welcomed in by the people.
morale must be pretty low once they realise that isn't the case. no wonder some have surrendered fairly easily

One of the reasons that huge convoy has stopped isn’t it? Realised they’ve been sold a dud, being greeted with petrol bombs not hugs would be a clue for the Russians

[lardy]

On his way out? Trying to take the half the world with him? Surely MI5 have a close operative over there for the last 20 years? Time to blow one’s cover and do the world a massive favour…..

If anyone is going to act on him, I'd imagine it's the oligarchs. They aren't gonna be pleased that he's spilled the gravy train.

[xsnaggle]

If anyone is going to act on him, I'd imagine it's the oligarchs. They aren't gonna be pleased that he's spilled the gravy train.

MI6