Reply With QuoteI think it's great when the likes of Brentford, Burnley , Watford etc kick a few arses in the poncey leagueOriginally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Maybe one day we will get up there for more than a season but I doubt it .
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Ladies and Gentlemen you have been listening to a party political broadcast on behalf of the dirty stinking capitalist premier league .
We can do anything we want as most of you are stupid .
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I think it's great when the likes of Brentford, Burnley , Watford etc kick a few arses in the poncey league
Maybe one day we will get up there for more than a season but I doubt it .
There is no obvious answer. In one sense FFP should protect clubs from themselves and put an end to ridiculous overspending with transfer embargo’s and point deductions. Yet some of the worst offenders like Villa have gotten away with it by winning promotion in the nick of time.
The biggest problems appear to be in the Championship where huge debts are being racked up by too many clubs. It’s the division where the FFP breaches are regularly occurring with a number of teams being hit by points deductions. Maybe things will slowly change and clubs will get their act together but right now it’s a long way from that.
it should at least be a level playing field. the current system where some clubs get well more than double the income of others is basically not fair.
you could take any club in this league, say Peterborough, and hive them an extra £35 million a year for 2 or 3 years to spend on wages and transfers and they should at least be challenging for the playoffs.
the fact that we had it and did nothing says a lot about us
2018/19 - Birmingham were deducted 9 points, which meant they finished 17th as opposed to 14th.
2020/21 - Sheffield Wednesday were deducted 6 points, which meant they were relegated (ironically instead of Derby).
And, of course, this season we have Derby's 21 points, that will see them relegated, and Reading's 6 points, which might see them relegated or mean nothing at all.
The point I was making above is the teams who get punished are those who are knackered anyway. It's not those who achieve any sort of success.
That's the stuff of fantasy. Football has never been a level playing field. Nor will it ever be.
And that's why i believe performance enhancing drugs should be legal. People think i'm being facetious but i'm deadly serious.
Credit where it's due, that's a new angle.
its never going to be for things like ticket sales, or merchandise or sponsorship, but it should be for TV revenue IMO, or at least the disparity should be a lot less.
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clubs like Coventry have an income of about 12 million, and are competing with clubs that get £42 million in a season from parachute payments alone
I know you love your graphics, but I have no idea what that one means. Wycombe? Charlton? Sheffield Wednesday? They ain't in the Championship.
Is it right that by winning promotion Villa were able to escape the much more stringent FFP rules in the Championship? They accrued huge debts which were well over £39 million over three years but by going up avoided being punished. Huge overspending benefitted them and they didn’t get punished. Huge overspending didn’t work for other clubs and they were punished. I don’t think that’s right. Overspending is overspending.
Its deadly serious, sport is just for the rich. I think they worked out the cost for Australia at about 30 million dollars a gold medal in Athens back in the 2000's. Australia finished 4th because they spent more money.
Credit where it's due, that's a new angle.
Drugs in sport reduce economic bias.
No idea to be honest. But I can't recall any sides getting points deductions after promotion, which is one of the main reasons why I believe the system just doesn't stack up. The only clubs who seem to get punished are those who are already knackered anyway, and the system is so complicated that even those who are supposed to be overseeing it don't seem to understand it (for instance, Cardiff were hit with an embargo not long ago that was swiftly removed as there was apparently some sort of misunderstanding on the part of the Football League).
I appreciate these measures are intended to stop clubs overspending, but they clearly don't work in that respect, so what do they actually achieve?
I don't think too many footballers start off rich.....
its not from this season
you misunderstand.
Enlighten me.
So what season it is from?
I see it as a big flaw. Teams like Villa spend huge sums in a gamble to get back to the PL. It worked for them but it was by no means a guarantee. They would have been knackered had they not gone up because their debts were huge. The system encourages clubs to take that gamble knowing the FFP debt levels are much higher in the PL. That needs to change. The PL and EFL need to work together to come up with a more sensible way of monitoring all of this because it’s failing. Relegation from the PL to the Championship should not be so disastrous and similarly promotion to the PL shouldn’t be so lucrative.
mostly 2020/21 except where the club's haven't released the accounts for that season yet, in which case it's their Most recent results
It's nonsense, then.
Fulham weren't in the Championship in 2020/21. Neither were West Brom. Or Charlton. Rotherham were, but there's no sign of them.
Its about the sports institutions or in the case of Australia that i mentioned earlier spending 500 million in preparation for an event. Its not about the person growing up rich but then again you knew that!
Its neither a new concept, if it is for you its worth looking into, plenty has been written and said on the topic. Personally I think the arguments are sound and worth considering rather then be simply dismissed in the south park sense "drugs are bad" no more discussion.
I don't believe we watch a purely innocent event these days, there is so much fixing and interference around sports. Even with our greatest romantic blinkered goggles on, professional sport is no longer about the freaks and chance, its a multi-billion dollar a year business. So the least they can do is try to level the playing field by giving the entertainers the same opportunities afford to their competitors who have greater access to wealth to help them perform.
If all of the players were taking performance-enhancing drugs, wouldn't the better players still be, like, well, better?
The Premier League would be more of a closed shop without parachute payments.
its not nonsense, it still gives you a good idea on the relative levels of income in this league
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