Reply With QuoteI'm not disputing if it happened or not, but doesn't this sound like one of them urban myths you read online?!Originally Posted by bobh
| + Visit Cardiff FC for Latest News, Transfer Gossip, Fixtures and Match Results |
I recall an incident reported a couple of years ago.
Two women of let's say foreign appearance, were chatting on a bus.
A man of far right views couldn't understand their language and took exception
and berated them saying something like
"you're in England now - you should be speaking English!"
One of them replied, in English,
Actually, we're in Wales and we are speaking Welsh - what's your problem?"
There wasn't a hole deep enough for him to crawl into.
I'm not disputing if it happened or not, but doesn't this sound like one of them urban myths you read online?!
In defence of Sludge...
And bearing in mind I haven't read everything here.
But it is possible to be critical of some pro-welsh language policies and that not mean you don't support the language. Same way you can be a christian and criticise some church policies. For example, the language needs to 'win around' people if it is to have popular support. Spending money on bilingual signage may not be the best way to do that. Sludge's comments are very common in Cardiff.
Sometimes less is more and 'shoving things down peoples throats' (not my words) isn't always the best thing to do.
Personally I have no issue at all with bilingual general information as it's cheaper than an opt out system and tends to lead to more concise communication (ie, you keep it to one side of paper, so the Welsh/English is reversible).
One thing I would change is the requirement for kids to study Welsh until 16. I think after 14 it should be optional, by which time you have gained an awareness of the cultural and linguistic elements of the language but you are unlikely to become fluent in it compared to kids at Welsh language schools and it does impact upon other subjects given there are only so many hours in the day. I'm a big believer in learning foreign languages (ich kann Deutsche sprechen...) and I don't want us to fall further behind on that.
Anecdotally I think that policy does build some resentment towards the language, including amongst young people 'made' to learn it.
I had 1 hour of Welsh a week after 14
My daughter is 15 and gets the same one whole hour a week.
duplicate post
It was in the eggo or Western Mail
Yeah I've got teeny recollections of the story myself so wasn't trying to dispute it was reported somehow..just saying it sounds like one of them types of stories you hear repeated down the pub etc.
Are you of the same opinion about the incurred costs and the obvious waste of time in providing language platforms for say Somali, Arabic, Aramaic, perhaps even Ukranian on its way etc ?
Genuinely curious.
The reason why in a city like cardiff that multi language information is provided because in many immigrant communities the population , especially amongst the elderly , speaks very little English.
In Cardiff is there a elderly population of Welsh speakers that cannot understand English and need these bilingual forms ?
I very much doubt it .
here he is again, defending the tories
I think there are around 35 k people in Cardiff who's first language is Welsh.
they can probably all manage to fill in a form in English, but why should they have to?
hahahere he is again, defending the tories
Do you think Cardiff County Council providing a call line in English and Welsh is a significant step in preserving the Welsh language ?
I don't
Spend the money on a Welsh language festival in Cardiff every summer for example
Who wants English , or Indeed Welsh to be the only language ?
That's clearly not what the critics of bilingual Council forms is about
Welsh is in a good state these days , better than I can remember . Do people think the council spending money on language classes for the many is a better use of resources ?
Or is anyone who suggests that a goose stepping anti Welsh nazi ?
I bet you most of them fill it in in English
My ex missus was a raving Welsh nationalist , on the day of the vote for a Welsh parliament she pissed off into town shopping with her mother who was always slagging off the English and neither of them bothered to vote .
It's box ticking
Can't think why she left you with your open minded attitude to life?
Never that many, less than 5% of the population isn’t it? Know quite a few parents who send their kids to Welsh primary but none of them speak any Welsh….
This is such an unbelievably arrogant attitude to have, it's not box ticking if you prefer to fill it in in your first language. Who the hell do you think you are?
It's because he's a tory. He's let it slip in this thread.
Whoa now. You keep that violence in check sonny.
According to the last census 11.1% are fluent in Welsh.
I'd be interested to know the percentages of those that speak Somali, Arabic etc. so Sludge can support his case that providing a Welsh language platform is a waste of time and money when comparing the absolute need for the provision of other languages to support some communities within Cardiff.
I wonder if Dafydd Iwan regards any of the Welsh team as being a Dic Siôn Dafydd?
She didn't like English people so I left her
Precious .
Don't make me get my girlfriend to slap you
I am simply voicing an opinion that its daft . I am not advocating death to Welsh speakers .
Her mother was a Welsh speaker
Moaned about the English
And voted tory
Never forget you're Welsh
Isn't it
Posting Permissions