Reply With QuoteOh God you've just added another 5 pages to this threadOriginally Posted by blue matt
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Its from a music sheet site, but this is what they have said
Dic Siôn Dafydd – (literal translation: “Richard son of John son of David” - is a term of abuse applied to a Welshman who denies his native language and speaks only English. In other words, a traitor.
The term originates from a one Dic Siôn Dafydd who left Wales to became a draper in London. His pomposity led him to claim that he had forgotten how to speak Welsh, and on a visit to his mother in Wales who spoke only Welsh he insisted on speaking English.
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Bit touchy, aren't you?
Are you a Welsh speaker of a servile, floor-licking Dic Sion Dafydd?
Says the one demanding explanations of lyrics a week after the game
Just let people enjoy things, it's fine
It's merely a discussion. If you don't like it, find yourself another thread.
Oh I like it just fine, my contribution to the discussion is that you're overthinking it and should let people enjoy things. If you don't like that, find yourself another thread
Stop whinging, then.
Does anyone remember that druid bloke Dr Robyn Lewis who was prominent in the Welsh language Society alongside Ffred Ffrancis ?
He used to write into the western mail and described anyone living in Wales who didn't speak welsh as a monoglot and a colonialist
Daft old sod , probably dead now
He hated the English so much he studied at university college London, England
Mind you we do have the people who say they walk into pubs and shops in Welsh speaking areas and THEY .....start speaking in Welsh
I have never experienced that , I think it's a myth and quite frankly if you go into a pub in a Welsh speaking area and the locals are speaking Welsh then it seems perfectly normal I would have thought .
Used to go on holiday when I was younger to Newquay West Wales with my mate and his family who were from Birmingham but moved down here when my mate was a kid
His old man loved Wales, soon became a regular at Cardiff City
It's only a line on a map really
A Paler Shade of White wouldn’t go amiss about ten to five on Saturday afternoon.
We're in the middle of something here Sludge, bit rude to interrupt tbh
What's happening , I am on heavy duty painkillers at the moment and totally off my face
Don’t talk to Sludge ap Factory like that
Enjoy your monologues Sludge but for some reason this came to mind!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1035805923833524224
my understanding is the faint hearted and servile are people who welcome English "oppression"
the blackness around us would be English "oppression" or the fact that Wales barely exists as a nation these days
the breaking of the dawn would be being ready for when Wales rises again as a strong independent nation
DIC Sion dafydd was a character in a poem who was Welsh but ashamed of his welshness, and tried to hide it, even to the point of only speaking in English to his own mother who only spoke Welsh. sort of a Welsh version of an Uncle Tom kind of character.
My ex (in the 70's) was from Bagshot, Surrey, as were most of her family - but her mum was from Pembrokeshire and spoke Welsh.
On a visit to the mum's family, they were in a pub down west, and were speaking English, as only the mum could speak Welsh.
Bar staff and locals were speaking Welsh and were not too complimentary about the little group of "Englanders".
So when they were leving, although they knew perfectly well where they were going, mum went up to the bar and loudly asked for directions - in Welsh! Queue chins dropping to the floor.
I thought Dawn was some bird. The faint hearted were those living under the Welsh NHS, the blackness was coal
Maybe the Welsh FA shouldn't get Dafydd Iwan back for the final, at this rate people will spend the entire first half debating the lyrics instead of watching the game
no you didn't
Is this a safe place for me to say that it's possible to be pro-independent but hate tub-thumping nationalism?
Didn’t you like the shirts?
You haven't always got to be a smart arse you know.
The shirts were fine. Didn’t think much of the songs, though. I preferred Can’t Take My Eyes Off You.
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