NHS Expenditure

[cyril evans awaydays]

Although I believe in a publicly funded health service, you do cite rather radical examples of private healthcare.

The point of the NHS is that it's free at the point of use. Some services could be provided privately and it doesnt change that, the same way that contracted out waste collection doesnt mean you are charged extra for bin collection. Also, there are more examples than just the US and the UK, which are two extreme examples really.

As long as it's free at the point of use, I dont greatly care if some services are provided by the private sector tbh, if it improves service

Yeah but remember the NHS is unfundable and too big. So regardless if it is a public or private service provider:

Bringing more GPs back into the NHS, positioning them in hospitals rather than close to local need, turning GPs and A and E including x-ray into a genuine 24/7 service, getting hospital staff to triage whether someone involved in a fight is a victim or an assailant and having multi-skilled paramedic firefighters has to be part of the solution, right?

[life on mars]

Comparing health care systems in Europe is often oversimplified and you often get politcial point scoring statements like ooh the German healthcare is the best , before you do that you have to understand what is free at the point of access , what is free and how much do employees have to top up to gain full access to all treatments , I'd put money on the NHS being the most generous for it all being free at the point of access, for all .

Sitting on our hands and not thinking of different ways of working and new solutions ,will help everyone as the NHS is too big and broken.

[life on mars]

What did Bevan say he was doing at the start of the NHS?

Bevan's stated ambition was to build a health service based on four principles: one that is free at the point of use, available to everyone who needed it, paid for out of general taxation and used responsibly.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Comparing health care systems in Europe is often oversimplified and you often get politcial point scoring statements like ooh the German healthcare is the best , before you do that you have to understand what is free at the point of access , what is free and how much do employees have to top up to gain full access to all treatments , I'd put money on the NHS being the most generous for it all being free at the point of access, for all .

Sitting on our hands and not thinking of different ways of working and new solutions ,will help everyone as the NHS is too big and broken.

Have you carried out an analysis that so many others have failed to do or are you putting your money on the NHS being the most generous health service on the basis of a hunch?