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Thread: Macron v Le Pen

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    Macron v Le Pen

    Looking at the results yesterday, three people did better than expected; Macron, Le Pen and in particular Melanchon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_F...ntial_election

    Issue for second round will be low turnout and where Melanchon's high vote goes. Barring something dramatic in the coming two weeks, I can't see any realistic way Le Pen wins though. A comfortable 55-45% win for Macron is my prediction.

    It's notable how little support their centre-right and centre-left parties got. Lots have gone to Macron of course, but lots also drifting to more radical parties on the left and right.

    Quite a good analysis here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61064837

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Looking at the results yesterday, three people did better than expected; Macron, Le Pen and in particular Melanchon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_F...ntial_election

    Issue for second round will be low turnout and where Melanchon's high vote goes. Barring something dramatic in the coming two weeks, I can't see any realistic way Le Pen wins though. A comfortable 55-45% win for Macron is my prediction.

    It's notable how little support their centre-right and centre-left parties got. Lots have gone to Macron of course, but lots also drifting to more radical parties on the left and right.

    Quite a good analysis here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61064837
    I think people are fed up of the status quo as it's leading to worsening living standards so are going to the extremes on both sides.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Doucas View Post
    I think people are fed up of the status quo as it's leading to worsening living standards so are going to the extremes on both sides.
    Macron was voted in to disrupt the status quo in the first place.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Macron was voted in to disrupt the status quo in the first place.
    Haha, nice one, a globalist investment banker from Rothschild & Co disrupting the status quo

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Macron was voted in to disrupt the status quo in the first place.
    Economically at least he is France's Thatcher. He will win, but great swathes of voters won't vote for him. I genuinely think that had it been Macron v Melanchon then Melanchon may have won. He would have had a slightly better chance than Le Pen I think.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Big TV debate tonight live

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Looking at the results yesterday, three people did better than expected; Macron, Le Pen and in particular Melanchon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_F...ntial_election

    Issue for second round will be low turnout and where Melanchon's high vote goes. Barring something dramatic in the coming two weeks, I can't see any realistic way Le Pen wins though. A comfortable 55-45% win for Macron is my prediction.

    It's notable how little support their centre-right and centre-left parties got. Lots have gone to Macron of course, but lots also drifting to more radical parties on the left and right.

    Quite a good analysis here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61064837
    I'm not changing my prediction, but apparently Guadaloupe,Martinique and French Guyana have voted heavily for Le Pen. Guadaloupe 70%-30%.

    In the first round two weeks ago Guadaloupe voted heavily for Melanchon. In 2017 in the second round it was 75-25% for Macron. A dramatic change, although I dont think it will be reflected nationwide

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Projections saying Macron has won fifty eight per cent of the vote.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61151604

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Projections saying Macron has won fifty eight per cent of the vote.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61151604
    and there was JamesWales saying Le Pen was definitely going to win

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    and there was JamesWales saying Le Pen was definitely going to win
    I think James said Macron would win 55-45 in fairness.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I think James said Macron would win 55-45 in fairness.
    DON'T RUIN MY FISHING TRIP CYRIL

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    and there was JamesWales saying Le Pen was definitely going to win
    Why don't you just make things up? Oops, I forgot, you already do

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    DON'T RUIN MY FISHING TRIP CYRIL
    You think using capitols (sorry capitals) will spare you my future stalking?

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    DON'T RUIN MY FISHING TRIP CYRIL
    Oops sorry. I didn't realise there was an audience.

    What I meant to say was this 58/42 vote is obviously a big steal caused by millions of unregistered ballots on Les Machines Dominiones. The WEF kinder Macron and his crime family was installed by Schwab as part of the Great Reset to continue the depopulation plan through vaccines and stopping Russia selling gas.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Projections saying Macron has won fifty eight per cent of the vote.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61151604
    Le Pen needs more lead in her pencil.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Condolences to the British media and brexiters.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    The incumbent Trump admiring nationalist leader in Slovenia beaten as well;-

    https://www.politico.eu/article/jane...nian-election/

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    28% did not vote , either could claim that vacant vote , both candidates moved towards each others views this time to capture those floaters , Le Pen I sure will feel the better as the increase in her vote share is much noticeable than Macron's ,so some warnings are there , their versions of local regional elections will be of great interest ?

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Clear win for Macron, by a slightly higher margin than most thought, albeit a clear shift towards Le Pen from 2017 - something has to change as the wind is all blowing in that direction. Interestingly, Macron is strongest amongst older people so if anything demographics are shifting against him.

    Will be interesting (for election geeks) with the French general elections in June. What I don't really understand is why Le Pen and Melanchons party don't do so well in these elections and lose half their vote in the second rounds. As such, Melanchons party only has 17MPs and Le Pens only 8. I'm not sure why there is a huge dispartity in people who vote for her as president but not for the parties MPs? Would have thought it would be the opposite if anything.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_F...ative_election

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    28% did not vote , either could claim that vacant vote , both candidates moved towards each others views this time to capture those floaters , Le Pen I sure will feel the better as the increase in her vote share is much noticeable than Macron's ,so some warnings are there , their versions of local regional elections will be of great interest ?
    A fantastic result for the technocrats considering his approval rating was only 36%. Going by those numbers, Boris would achieve an overwhelming victory if he went to the polls tomorrow.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    A fantastic result for the technocrats considering his approval rating was only 36%. Going by those numbers, Boris would achieve an overwhelming victory if he went to the polls tomorrow.
    that doesn't make much sense

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    that doesn't make much sense
    You don't have to be popular to dominate on election day, and Boris is only a few points below Macron in the not so popular stakes.

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You don't have to be popular to dominate on election day, and Boris is only a few points below Macron in the not so popular stakes.
    Boris is toast, only a matter of when not if, fat blonde coiffured leaders are in decline or already toasted

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    Re: Macron v Le Pen

    Quote Originally Posted by Packerman View Post
    Boris is toast, only a matter of when not if, fat blonde coiffured leaders are in decline or already toasted
    He is very useful to certain people, so I'm guessing he will finish his tasks before he finally ducks out.

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