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Thread: Oldham v Salford result confirmed

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    Oldham v Salford result confirmed

    They played the last 11 behind closed doors.

    Oldham now officially relegated

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    Oldham & Scunthorpe eh, old adversaries of ours, two famous away trips. The 7-1 at Boundary Park and, of course, the 3-0 promotion party game under Eddie May. There but for the grace of God.

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    Salford fans booing Oldham.
    Forgetting they are a plastic club with no league history. If the Neville's etc take away their money, they will be back in the NPL very quickly.

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    I used to really like the Oldham team that played in the old First Division - they were a right handful at Boundary Park and had some really good players. Southend are another side that we’re thinking they could make the top flight not that long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I used to really like the Oldham team that played in the old First Division - they were a right handful at Boundary Park and had some really good players. Southend are another side that we’re thinking they could make the top flight not that long ago.
    Is Oldham the first former Premier League club to lose their League status by relegation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Is Oldham the first former Premier League club to lose their League status by relegation?
    Yes they were a Premier league founder , 30 years ago

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    Feel a bit gutted for Oldham, though they were at the start of the greedy league

    when people moan about our fortunes, maybe they need to look at other teams ( like Oldham ) and think " we are not that hard done by "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Is Oldham the first former Premier League club to lose their League status by relegation?
    They are.

    It might be of interest to note that in 1991/92, the season before the Premier League, two sides were relegated from Division 1 that season - Luton Town and Notts County. Both ended up being relegated from the league. Oxford Utd were a Division 1 club between 1985-88 and went out of the league, too. Carlisle (1974/75) and Grimsby (1948/49) are other examples post WW2 of Division 1 clubs who ended up out of the league.

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    A coach I organised in 1976 to Oldham promising a visit to Blackpool afterwards ended up after a rodeo event in its Supporters Club with a veto on the night out and a police escort by varying police forces back to the Welsh border.

    To think that they were one last minute Mark Hughes volley away from a Wembley Cup Final though. Sad for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    A coach I organised in 1976 to Oldham promising a visit to Blackpool afterwards ended up after a rodeo event in its Supporters Club with a veto on the night out and a police escort by varying police forces back to the Welsh border.

    To think that they were one last minute Mark Hughes volley away from a Wembley Cup Final though. Sad for them.
    Yes very sad, I hope they bounce back soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    when people moan about our fortunes, maybe they need to look at other teams ( like Oldham ) and think " we are not that hard done by "
    Little old Cardiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Little old Cardiff.
    not really

    we have had some decent times recently, a owner that is putting up the money to keep us going, its not been all that bad, even you might have noticed that eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    not really

    we have had some decent times recently, a owner that is putting up the money to keep us going, its not been all that bad, even you might have noticed that eh
    And there’s the “plucky little Cardiff” attitude down to a tee, grateful that a billionaire owner is doing nothing better than keeping us going in this league full of modern day giants in the game. Was that really the height of our ambitions a dozen years ago when Vincent Tan took over?

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    Maybe be about time to incorporate the National League into the FL as League 3. 10 out of the top 13 are ex-EFL clubs. Only Bromley, Boreham Wood & Solihull buck the trend. It gets harder & harder to make the jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    And there’s the “plucky little Cardiff” attitude down to a tee, grateful that a billionaire owner is doing nothing better than keeping us going in this league full of modern day giants in the game. Was that really the height of our ambitions a dozen years ago when Vincent Tan took over?
    And theres the ‘I know better’ know-all attitude that you continually spout. Totally ungrateful that a multi millionaire (note, not billionaire - $750m dollars net worth in 2020 and probably quite a bit less since) owner has pumped probably well over £250m into our club to keep it going and got us to the Premier League twice in the last 10 years. If he is making such a bad job of it why don't you put your money where your mouth is and get a few of your ‘friends’ on here together and buy it off him ? No …… didn't think so, much easier to continually criticise and denigrate his efforts from a distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    And theres the ‘I know better’ know-all attitude that you continually spout. Totally ungrateful that a multi millionaire (note, not billionaire - $750m dollars net worth in 2020 and probably quite a bit less since) owner has pumped probably well over £250m into our club to keep it going and got us to the Premier League twice in the last 10 years. If he is making such a bad job of it why don't you put your money where your mouth is and get a few of your ‘friends’ on here together and buy it off him ? No …… didn't think so, much easier to continually criticise and denigrate his efforts from a distance.
    You just keep on tugging that forelock, although I’d have thought you might need a new one one by now.

    Vincent Tan was a billionaire when he took over just about twelve years ago and has been for the majority of time since then. However, I’ll concede you that while making the observation that he is still a multi, multi millionnaire.

    Can I ask you what your reaction would have been in the summer of 2010 if City’s new multi millionaire owner had said his target for 2022 was to have a team that is clearly a lot worse than the current one, to have taken the club’s debt into nine figures, to create a record as the only club to have been twice relegated from the Premier League the season after they’d been promoted, to have wasted the parachute payments following those relegations, to be changing the manager once a season since 19/20, to impose a deeply divisive rebrand which saw level of support fall and to inflict a boring, largely unsuccessful, out of date style of football which resulted in a huge drop in entertainment value on long suffering fans? Oh, there would be an extension to one of the stands as well, but that would be closed for much of its existence because it was only full when Wales were playing.

    It’s not been all bad with Vincent Tan in charge, but do you really think he’s happy with the return he’s got for all of that money spent over a dozen years?

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    I travelled up on a Supporters Club coach and was in the Oldham supporters club having a quiet drink in a friendly atmosphere before the Cyril Evans coach arrived. Will send you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You just keep on tugging that forelock, although I’d have thought you might need a new one one by now.

    Vincent Tan was a billionaire when he took over just about twelve years ago and has been for the majority of time since then. However, I’ll concede you that while making the observation that he is still a multi, multi millionnaire.

    Can I ask you what your reaction would have been in the summer of 2010 if City’s new multi millionaire owner had said his target for 2022 was to have a team that is clearly a lot worse than the current one, to have taken the club’s debt into nine figures, to create a record as the only club to have been twice relegated from the Premier League the season after they’d been promoted, to have wasted the parachute payments following those relegations, to be changing the manager once a season since 19/20, to impose a deeply divisive rebrand which saw level of support fall and to inflict a boring, largely unsuccessful, out of date style of football which resulted in a huge drop in entertainment value on long suffering fans? Oh, there would be an extension to one of the stands as well, but that would be closed for much of its existence because it was only full when Wales were playing.

    It’s not been all bad with Vincent Tan in charge, but do you really think he’s happy with the return he’s got for all of that money spent over a dozen years?
    Let’s not forget much of the current debt was created by Tan and decisions made by him and his incompetent puppets. Quite why we should be so eternally grateful to a man who is servicing a debt that he is responsible for I don’t know? He put people in charge that have oversaw this shit show and seen so much of his personal wealth pissing down the drain. That’s on him and his team, not the supporters. All that money spent and come the summer have very little assets on the playing field to show for it. I’m sure if such incompetence was shown in his other businesses then heads would roll at a much higher level and experts brought in so the business stops making the same mistakes. Not at Cardiff City though. Continue with the same directors that are directing the ship in the wrong direction.

    Tans clearly lost interest, it’s time he stopped flogging a dead horse and let somebody else take the reigns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    A coach I organised in 1976 to Oldham promising a visit to Blackpool afterwards ended up after a rodeo event in its Supporters Club with a veto on the night out and a police escort by varying police forces back to the Welsh border.

    To think that they were one last minute Mark Hughes volley away from a Wembley Cup Final though. Sad for them.
    The 'Oldham Wreckers'?

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    Andy Campbell just Tweeted :
    “Now who’s got pie on their face?? I’ve been waiting 20 years to say that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    And there’s the “plucky little Cardiff” attitude down to a tee, grateful that a billionaire owner is doing nothing better than keeping us going in this league full of modern day giants in the game. Was that really the height of our ambitions a dozen years ago when Vincent Tan took over?
    Well said Bob!👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    And there’s the “plucky little Cardiff” attitude down to a tee, grateful that a billionaire owner is doing nothing better than keeping us going in this league full of modern day giants in the game. Was that really the height of our ambitions a dozen years ago when Vincent Tan took over?
    not at all, when teams are going out of business or falling down the leagues with crap owners, we are doing neither, maybe if we did start to plummet down the leagues and face dropping into the NL it might please some

    Oh and when VT got involved, it was to hopefully save the club from HMRC administration / CVA / liquidation ( that had been a real threat under the Riddler ) or have we forgotten that ? ? ?

    I know people like to moan and criticise ( some have nothing better to do with their time ( we see it on here all the time )) maybe have a look at yourself in the mirror and think " its been a crap 2 years, we have lost people we know, can I try and be a bit more positive in my life " it just might improve your life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardiff-Cal View Post
    Andy Campbell just Tweeted :
    “Now who’s got pie on their face?? I’ve been waiting 20 years to say that.”
    Brilliant long awaited response

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    Cardiff City under Vincent Tan equals stasis equals dormant equals loss of interest by Tan, reflected in the supporters attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    not at all, when teams are going out of business or falling down the leagues with crap owners, we are doing neither, maybe if we did start to plummet down the leagues and face dropping into the NL it might please some

    Oh and when VT got involved, it was to hopefully save the club from HMRC administration / CVA / liquidation ( that had been a real threat under the Riddler ) or have we forgotten that ? ? ?

    I know people like to moan and criticise ( some have nothing better to do with their time ( we see it on here all the time )) maybe have a look at yourself in the mirror and think " its been a crap 2 years, we have lost people we know, can I try and be a bit more positive in my life " it just might improve your life
    So when a billionaire (sorry dml told me I can’t use that word so that should be multi millionaire) takes over a club with financial problems the height of any ambition is to overcome said problems and that’s it? I’m pretty sure Vincent Tan had visions of more nights like the Palace Semi Final when
    he attended his first match at Cardiff City Stadium and entertaining all of those Malaysian high fliers like he did in our first Premier League season when he first took over, but those days seem so long ago now and he, surely, must feel the same way.

    I appreciate that Vincent Tan has been able to get us into the Premier League twice and he has put his money where his mouth is, but he’s had a very poor return on his investment and he has to take his share of the blame for that in my book. For me, the Malky Mackay controversy and the way the appointment of Ole turned out has had a negative effect on the type of managers we go for - we make the sort of appointments which suit the plucky little Cardiff narrative.

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