Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by Tuerto
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That's my view of them to be honest.
Certain trust members have not helped themselves either.
In what respect, Stan?
I think it was targeted at the Trust's leadership rather than its members. As a Trust member watching this exchange it is difficult to see how this can be reconciled without some changes either at the club or in the Trust as it is clear that relationships have broken down.
The key questions for me is whether this is just a small collection of individuals in each party who have an abrasive relationship or whether there is a more fundamental mindset at the club that questions the necessity of the Trust and it's ability to act as a critical friend and protector of fans' interests.
If it is the latter, and from the childish tone of the club's response it seems that way, then there is a more fundamental issue around the commitment of the club to work with its fan base and the community that seems misguided and narrow minded.
Reignsdon’t you start writing any letters
At least the CEO’s local club had a decent season.
I think you’re referring to Tonaco. It’s just north of Llantrisant.
Well... what do know....?! We actually agree on something!!!
According to the letter the Trust is not a Trust at all. Are they misrepresenting their aims and objectives by purporting to represent a bona fide Trust and are they receiving subscription fees under false pretenses? I hope not. However, if true, it's a shame as some of the financial stuff emanating from the alleged Trust is of great value in reminding us meagre supporters of the financial state the club is in. On the face of it the club's response is entirely reasonable but perhaps there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.
Hmm...hard to know what to say about all this.
To be honest, the tone, content and structure of the original letter was poor in all cases, though you could see what they were getting at. However it came across as a rant, and a pretty demanding rant at that. But the reaction of the club does seem a bit over the top - they seem to have simply swatted it aside, and with some derision.
But...the points they (the club) make do deserve closer attention. They seem to be saying that the Trust is de-registered, and does not meet the FSA's minimum requirements, so is therefore not a recognised body - all fair enough. But you'd think that any group of fans deserves at least a courteous reply, and an explanation. Instead they go off on one.
Now, the club is after all a private business, and they can run it however they please. And they seem happy enough to deal with the Supporters Club, so perhaps there is something else behind this retort. Is it a hangover from the Hammam days? Or is there something else going on here?
What a load of fuss over nothing. The vast majority of fans of all clubs, just want to go to games, hope for a win, or at least a good performance, then win lose or draw, discuss the game over a few beers afterwards.
Supporters trusts, are made up of the small minority of nosey f*ckers who want to know the ins and outs of a cats arse.
Because they pay to go to games, they feel as though they’ve got the right to be involved in how the club is run.
Any supporter who thinks they aren’t just ‘customers’ are kidding themselves.
I wonder who actually wrote the thing!! I have my own thought on that}
Were other members of the trust consulted, let alone other supporters? Or was it written by a small group who consider themselves spokesmen for the supporters whether the supporters want them to be or not?
Cardiff City Supporters Club .......when asked to jump they say how high ?
I think if people had backed the trust in greater numbers in the first place this could mean something
But it means feck all
This is Cardiff City
Your not far wrong with that assessment, I’ve never seen anything from the trust apart from a poster on here who does commentary on HMRC filed accounts in respect of Cardiff City
That's bollocks
They give up their spare time to try and create links between the fans and the club and have the best interests of the club at heart
In return for that they get abuse from fans who want ccfc to be great but are prepared to do the square root of f all
The work the trust did with trying to build links with the local community in Grangetown and Riverside was brilliant to be a part of but saddening to hear it was the first contact between ccfc and the local area since Jesus was a boy .
He's talking shite I am afraid
If they are not officially recognised by the club, how is he ?
How many members have they got out of a fan data base of around 200k ?
Do not question Vincent! All attempts to question our fearless leader must be squashed!
If they ceased to become a recognised trust in 2016, how did this come about?
Sludge the trust have little for the fans.
Other than two things you mention what else?
Oh shit I have a feeling this could turn into a monty python sketch now.....
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They don't now after our shitty fan base ignored the chance to get a voice
Feck em all
The Trust were behind the alternative blue shirt during the rebrand that raised funds for Ty Hafan.
Wednesday afternoon! I could have sworn it was Monday
The club will be tamping when they find all the letters Dai Hunt sent to the club.
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