Fifty more Downing St. fines.

[JamesWales]

Boris Johnson would still be an MP and could be on TV [GB News] every effing day if he resigned.

He should still resign though - just as Neil Ferguson did.

He should have resigned, this is true. But he won't now and it does seem that the worst of partygate is behind him now

[the other bob wilson]

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...kSgU5hy-eW1JxQ

[Tito Fuente]

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status...kSgU5hy-eW1JxQ

Starmer though.

[TWGL1]

I was in Llandaff Fields walking [within 5 linear miles of my home] with my wife. We bumped into a friend and stood yards apart. A van marked 'HM Coastguard' came down the path, stopped, and bawled out instructions to 'disperse immediately' through a megaphone. A couple forced by hospital staff to watch their 13yr old son die [not COVID[ as they watched behind a screen wearing hazmat suits. People afraid to visit a dying relative in case they're accused of law-breaking by the tens of thousands of do-good snoopers ready to shout 'it's the law !!!'. These examples can be multiplied 1000's of times over the last 2 yrs, yet I doubt anyone was put in any extra danger if they had been ignored. I cut the top of my finger a year ago and had to go to A&E. I was the only 1 there. Last week I took someone to the A&E - there must have been 70 - some had been there for 2 nights. People who had serious conditions the last 2.5yrs have been virtually written off. Of course there had to be guidance in place for the vulnerable, but the negative effects of 'lockdowns' will be felt for years by many.

[the other bob wilson]

I was in Llandaff Fields walking [within 5 linear miles of my home] with my wife. We bumped into a friend and stood yards apart. A van marked 'HM Coastguard' came down the path, stopped, and bawled out instructions to 'disperse immediately' through a megaphone. A couple forced by hospital staff to watch their 13yr old son die [not COVID[ as they watched behind a screen wearing hazmat suits. People afraid to visit a dying relative in case they're accused of law-breaking by the tens of thousands of do-good snoopers ready to shout 'it's the law !!!'. These examples can be multiplied 1000's of times over the last 2 yrs, yet I doubt anyone was put in any extra danger if they had been ignored. I cut the top of my finger a year ago and had to go to A&E. I was the only 1 there. Last week I took someone to the A&E - there must have been 70 - some had been there for 2 nights. People who had serious conditions the last 2.5yrs have been virtually written off. Of course there had to be guidance in place for the vulnerable, but the negative effects of 'lockdowns' will be felt for years by many.

As Will the negative effects of 180,000 deaths. You can say that you doubt if anyone would have been put in any extra danger if the rules had been ignored - 180,000 died with a population that overwhelmingly obeyed the rules which it’s become fashionable to write off as madness by libertarians (people who only think of themselves) these days, but what I doubt is if the figure would have been that low (!!!) if the population at large behaved like many of those in 10 Downing Street did.

[the other bob wilson]

I was going to say unbelievable, but, given who’s behind it, highly predictable is more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-over-breaches

[the other bob wilson]

I was going to say unbelievable, but, given who’s behind it, highly predictable is more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-over-breaches

Find it depressing that this has not had a single reaction on here overnight - this speech gets more relevant by the week.

https://www.stylist.co.uk/news/mhair...fascism/662382

[TWGL1]

I was going to say unbelievable, but, given who’s behind it, highly predictable is more appropriate.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-over-breaches

Looks like the democratic process we thought we had is slowly being eroded is t it. What do you think of the WHO treaty has recently been signed ?

Changes are happening quickly.

[TWGL1]

I see Claudia Webb is still an M.P despite her criminal conviction and still earning £84k (plus expenses)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-61591802


https://twitter.com/statsjamie/statu...BrMG7p76Gp6pCg

[the other bob wilson]

Looks like the democratic process we thought we had is slowly being eroded is t it. What do you think of the WHO treaty has recently been signed ?

Changes are happening quickly.

Don’t know much about and aren’t really interested in the WHO proposals that have got the right so agitated, but I’ve just read up on it and found this

https://www.newswise.com/coronavirus...icle_id=771721

[the other bob wilson]

I see Claudia Webb is still an M.P despite her criminal conviction and still earning £84k (plus expenses)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-61591802


https://twitter.com/statsjamie/statu...BrMG7p76Gp6pCg

That’s whataboutery on a Life on Mars scale and it won’t work on me as I would never vote for her whether she was reinstated by Labour or not. Similarly, if Starmer was found guilty and then, rather than resign as promised, tried to do a Johnson, I wouldn’t vote for him or his party.

On the subject of fascism, this makes for interesting reading, I reckon you could make a case for saying the UK Government might qualify for all twelve categories.

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/0...ns-of-fascism/

[TWGL1]

Don’t know much about and aren’t really interested in the WHO proposals that have got the right so agitated, but I’ve just read up on it and found this

https://www.newswise.com/coronavirus...icle_id=771721

“The right” ?

[life on mars]

[QUOTE=TWGL1;5304986]“The right” ?[/QUOTE

Dreadful article no mention of party gate or Sir Beer Korma gate

[cyril evans awaydays]

Looks like the democratic process we thought we had is slowly being eroded is t it. What do you think of the WHO treaty has recently been signed ?

Changes are happening quickly.

What WHO Treaty has recently been signed? Who signed it? Which democratic bodies ratified it?

[the other bob wilson]

“The right” ?

Yes, it’s the libertarian right (ie people who think only of themselves) who tend to bang on about plots by the “elite”, that is people in power who don’t share their views, tell us Covid was just another version of the flu and then rail against lockdowns when it is shown to be anything but that. They also tend to put money before people as in “we can’t go into lockdown again because of the damage it does to the economy” - Johnson is supposed to have said that he was prepared to let the bodies pile high, those who were guided by the principle money before people over the past two years and more were usually sensible enough not to put it in such stark terms, but, in essence, that was what they were arguing.