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Thread: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

  1. #51

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by DryCleaning View Post
    I'm not sure of what your argument is. There aren't any of this thread that are arguing the city are a big football club. in fact, most accept that historically and at present, we're a middling 2nd tier club.
    Cardiff City's highest-ever ranking in the national attendance lists was fifth in 1921/22. That's as good as it ever got.

    The top ten that year were:

    1 - Chelsea
    2 - Liverpool
    3 - Tottenham
    4 - Newcastle
    5 - Cardiff
    6 - Everton
    7 - Aston Villa
    8 - Manchester Utd
    9 - Arsenal
    10 - Sheffield Utd

    From there, City's rankings were as follows:

    1922/23 - 8th
    1923/24 - 7th
    1924/25 - 13th
    1925/26 - 20th
    1926/27 - 29th
    1927/28 - 30th
    1928/29 - 29th
    1929/30 - 37th

    In 1952/53, City were back in the top ten at 8th, but it didn't last. By 1956/57, the club was 30th in the rankings despite still playing in the top flight.

    Here's an interesting attendance stat - in 1926/27, the season City won the FA Cup, the club was playing in the First Division but had an average attendance of just 15,424. Swansea Town were in the Second Division and were next in the national rankings with an average of 14,286. Meanwhile, Bristol City were playing in the Third Division (South), but had a higher average than both Cardiff and Swansea with a figure of 16,360.

  2. #52

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Cardiff City's highest-ever ranking in the national attendance lists was fifth in 1921/22. That's as good as it ever got.

    The top ten that year were:

    1 - Chelsea
    2 - Liverpool
    3 - Tottenham
    4 - Newcastle
    5 - Cardiff
    6 - Everton
    7 - Aston Villa
    8 - Manchester Utd
    9 - Arsenal
    10 - Sheffield Utd

    From there, City's rankings were as follows:

    1922/23 - 8th
    1923/24 - 7th
    1924/25 - 13th
    1925/26 - 20th
    1926/27 - 29th
    1927/28 - 30th
    1928/29 - 29th
    1929/30 - 37th

    In 1952/53, City were back in the top ten at 8th, but it didn't last. By 1956/57, the club was 30th in the rankings despite still playing in the top flight.

    Here's an interesting attendance stat - in 1926/27, the season City won the FA Cup, the club was playing in the First Division but had an average attendance of just 15,424. Swansea Town were in the Second Division and were next in the national rankings with an average of 14,286. Meanwhile, Bristol City were playing in the Third Division (South), but had a higher average than both Cardiff and Swansea with a figure of 16,360.
    How many have ever been in the top 5?

  3. #53

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    We have spent many years in the lower leagues because we dont have the fan base or interest in ccfc

    When we went down from the championship in 1986 ish it took us 17 years to get back

    It's taken Sunderland 3 years and Sheff Weds won't be long coming back up

    That's why they are big clubs

    Pompey have been down a few years but I doubt it will take them long to get back up
    Nice to see Swansea in the third tier 🥳

  4. #54

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    How many have ever been in the top 5?
    Other than those already mentioned, teams who have been in the top five of the attendances table since 1920 are: Wolves, Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds and Birmingham.

    Cardiff are the odd ones out, having only been in the top five once.

  5. #55

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Other than those already mentioned, teams who have been in the top five of the attendances table since 1920 are: Wolves, Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds and Birmingham.

    Cardiff are the odd ones out, having only been in the top five once.

    So we are the "smallest" club who have ever been in the top 5?

  6. #56

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Good good yes , all the nonsense spouted by so many of our fans and the media about us being a sleeping giant with this huge fanbase

    Out first time in top two divisions for 17 years .....as we couldn't even sell 19000 tickets ?

    I think it was an embarrassment

    A season or two later , in the championship we had a big name manager in Dave Jones , his first game was Leeds .....15,500

    We won an exciting game with a wonder goal from Jason koumas

    A week later we played Watford

    The crowd ? 9000

    Yep , 9000 , in the championship , a week after beating Leeds

    Where where all these fans ?

    A very bad season and relegation and our 18000 average will plummet

    You are deluded
    I can see that winning over fans is a slow process, especially given the dreadful crowds we had in the 80s and 90s. You expected them to return overnight. How are those mushrooms?

    Leeds was always going to bring in the fans - they'd just been relegated. There was still much apathy after a poor season the year before. Game was on a Friday night. Never the best. We lost 3-1 and were dreadful.

    I'd suggest studying attendances at new grounds before making your usual wayward predictions.

  7. #57

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I can see that winning over fans is a slow process, especially given the dreadful crowds we had in the 80s and 90s. You expected them to return overnight. How are those mushrooms?

    Leeds was always going to bring in the fans - they'd just been relegated. There was still much apathy after a poor season the year before. Game was on a Friday night. Never the best. We lost 3-1 and were dreadful.

    I'd suggest studying attendances at new grounds before making your usual wayward predictions.
    You are daft

    So 6000 people vanish in a week after beating Leeds in an exciting game

    Yet you say it's OK, it was a Friday night

    How many excuses do you want?

    Dear me

  8. #58

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    So basically history says we are mid table 2nd tier for attendances. Which is pretty much where we are now on the pitch. So the system works?

  9. #59

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    So basically history says we are mid table 2nd tier for attendances. Which is pretty much where we are now on the pitch. So the system works?
    We're higher in the table of attendances that we are in the table of average positions.

  10. #60

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    So we are the "smallest" club who have ever been in the top 5?
    In historical terms that's unquestionably correct. Birmingham are going through a lean spell at present, but in terms of attendances they've been a bigger club than Cardiff far more often than not throughout the history of the league.

  11. #61

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    In historical terms that's unquestionably correct. Birmingham are going through a lean spell at present, but in terms of attendances they've been a bigger club than Cardiff far more often than not throughout the history of the league.
    Yes they are in the premier in the table sludge put in the OP.

    Anybody else lower than the Premier in that table ever been in the top 5? We can't be the only ones?

  12. #62

    Re: Big Clubs And Where We Stand In The List

    Considering most of the teams with the best attendances have populations over 1 million, it is not rocket science that they are bound to have bigger crowds

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