It's Duchess, with a capital D. Show some respect.Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
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It's Duchess, with a capital D. Show some respect.
why?
I like that idea 👍
I think having an active royal family, as opposed to an ex royal family does bring in tourists; it makes it a historic as well as contemporary issue. The sheer numbers of global tourists milling around outside Buckingham Palace on any summer day is testament to that. Needless to say, there is no way to assess this and it's a fair point on opening up more buildings, something I do agree with.
I think the main benefit in terms of foreign affairs is the soft power and general respect it brings the country. Although many countries may not want to adopt the model themselves, there is an aura about them which does carry weight abroad. The Queen is one of the few people on earth whom no country would seek to insult and whom the vast majority will have general respect for.
If the Royals had any real power on domestic policy, I would be a raving republican, but they don't, so I'm not. I just don't see the big issue. President Blair? President Teresa May? These are the realistic alternatives and neither are exciting or offer much for me.
The biggest ongoing democratic issue in the UK is not the Royal Family, but the House of Lords
a president doesn't need to have any actual power, there are plenty of examples where they don't Switzerland or Ireland for example is a ceremonial role.
in Switzerland they have a new one every year
1. The old tourist chestnut yet again. Having a Head of State to bring in the tourists seems mighty weird to me.
2. Presidents need not be the leaders of the political party in government e.g. Germany.
In any case Versailles seems to do very well for tourists still. Tourists don't come to meet the royals but they do like the buildings, artwork, history etc. We can keep all that stuff.
1 - Yes, but you know it is different. How many Germans would recognise our queen vs how many Brits recognise (checks notes) Frank Walter-Steinmeier?
2 - I know. But what more does he bring to German society vs our head of state?
The German Head of State is elected and not given the post by dint of the bed he is born in. No-one has to swear allegiance to him in order to take his seat in parliament and he is not part of the etsablishment in the same way that the Queen is. He is not semi-worshipped and people do not need to fawn to him in a infantilistic state. He is part of a mature democracy and not the remnant of a feudal system with its honours systems et al. He will not occupy the post until he sheds his mortal coil. He does not dole out baubles in the name of the former German Empire. He is not the Head of the Church in Germany. People do not sing his name in the German National Anthem etc etc.
All healthier stuff in my opinion.
1 - It doesn't. It's not me arguing to change the status quo
2 - No he doesn't, but a lot of that is mere tradition and ceremony, there no real demonstrable harm in it. If the Queen had real power then there would be. The German president isn't elected by the people either btw.
There have been accusations that they stick their oar in when it suits them.
Prince Andrew being prime culprit.
**** the Royals
I’ll gladly enjoy the long weekend though
that's the spirit
So far, all I can gather is that next week the nation will be celebrating a fabricated reason for tourism and that people in other countries like something of ours, which is kind of ironic given our recent attitude to all things foreign.
One is immigration that in some cases costs ( not all ) one is tourism that provides value
It was more about respect from abroad, rather than immigration, and other nations' institutions liking our institutions. Maybe they like the thought of having a crown and living in a castle.
fair play, that made me laugh
Lady Diana was probably a nice enough lady but she didn't do a lot for me , horn wise
you would have though, given the chance, wouldn't you?
I actually saw her circa 1984, from about 6-8 feet away (some event at London's Guildhall, where I worked then).
To be fair, she was stunning in those days
I think Kate is a stunner
https://twitter.com/RepublicStaff/st...UX8fsGfXQ&s=19
why is this view never represented in any of the media
Imagine she took off her twin set and perls and changed into a rock chick like Sandy at the end of Grease .
Olivia Newton John at the end of grease .....yes please
Lady Di....no thanks
She was gutted when she heard the news
The weak argument that the Royal don't bring money in is absurd , its fine if you don't like them or anything British but lets not get away for the fact that the majority of people care for the Royals and its history celebrate and honour them , hey the USA has Royalty in Clintons' Bush's , Kennedys , even Disneyland / Elvis , USA folk don't ask for that to be got rid off the feckers even the poor soles like them .
The difference in my humble view other countries have more pride to their heritage , no matter what has gone in the past , we ( well ) the Wales and Scotland's Socialist enclaves walk around with a massive ooooh he's richer than me chip on the shoulder , ooooh fecking Ingerlund chip on the shoulder .
And lets be honest without the past efforts of the British Empire , Royals , Tories , Labour , Liberals we would all be very poor as a nation not the sixth-largest national economy in the world, which is incredible for an island of our size , I sometimes find it really tough to absorb that fact when looking at a map of the world .
Some just sit and moan , yes some have more , some less , however all including the moaners have sucked on that very success nipple and decisions made mainly sadly mostly by the Tories , who I think like the Royals are one of the oldest political party in the United Kingdom and arguably the world.
No I'm not a voter of them , due to the heavily weighted indoctrinated hate everything Welsh Socialism views , if you have another view your a right wing , royalist , bloated gammon faced kent .
Before the usual CCMB keyboarders insult me again no I'm not afraid to say or type or upset the crowd by saying I like a Tory policy , a Royal or MP's like such as Teressa May . Ben Wallace , Sajid Javid , along with great Liberals and Labour MP's like Harman , Hilary Benn, Paddy Ashdown , Robin Cooke , and the wonderful Mo Mowlam?
P.M.A.
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