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    Pistol

    The new Danny Boyle documentary about the Sex Pistols on Disney Plus.

    It's rubbish, save yourself the money and don't bother.

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    Just play Never Mind The Bollocks loudly

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    lets hope we kill bambi tomorrow

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    some say its number 1 again on social media but whatever a tune to jump around too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ah1JM9mf60


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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    some say its number 1 again on social media but whatever a tune to jump around too

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ah1JM9mf60

    Not even in the top 60 unfortunately.

    https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Lung View Post
    Not even in the top 60 unfortunately.

    https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/
    oh well msn full of shyte again

    my fav pistol song 17

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-bC0pjMFNc

    i,m a lazy sod ..........

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    overrated massively. The Clash were the band to follow. Strummer/Jones - rarely bettered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrace View View Post
    overrated massively. The Clash were the band to follow. Strummer/Jones - rarely bettered
    oh come on terrace view music fads and tastes vary between all genre of music lets appreciate all kinds

    the clash were great along with most bands that come from that era

    of all the punk and post punk bands the buzzcocks and undertones were my fav and later cock sparrer took that mantle

    my fav clash track

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvG3is7Bm1w


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Lung View Post
    The new Danny Boyle documentary about the Sex Pistols on Disney Plus.

    It's rubbish, save yourself the money and don't bother.
    It’s not a documentary. It’s not the story of The Sex Pistols, it’s Steve Jones’s story (hence Pistol) and in my opinion it’s very good. I’d considered myself pretty knowledgeable about all things punk but I didn’t know for example that Chrissie Hynde was so involved from the beginning. I didn’t know the background to ‘Bodies’ either. It’s also been good to give my wife the back story to the whole thing.. she didn’t know about Vivienne Westwood’s involvement or the link to Siouxsie and Steve Severin.

    In terms of entertainment and nostalgia I’d highly recommend it

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    It’s not a documentary. It’s not the story of The Sex Pistols, it’s Steve Jones’s story (hence Pistol) and in my opinion it’s very good. I’d considered myself pretty knowledgeable about all things punk but I didn’t know for example that Chrissie Hynde was so involved from the beginning. I didn’t know the background to ‘Bodies’ either. It’s also been good to give my wife the back story to the whole thing.. she didn’t know about Vivienne Westwood’s involvement or the link to Siouxsie and Steve Severin.

    In terms of entertainment and nostalgia I’d highly recommend it
    I have not seen the film, but I have read Steve Jones autobiography. I would highly recommend it as it gives in detail, mostly shockingly and graphic, his upbringing from a child, through the circumstance of the Sex Pistols forming, their demise and his life after.

    Spoiler alert… all I can say is, if the film is based on his book, there will be plenty of sex and drugs and rock and roll, and total lack of respect of authority, as one might expect. However, a lot of that excess is by the time the guy barely reaches his teens. If Rotten, Cook and Matlock (and Vicious) had similar upbringings, also add to that the state that the Country was in at the time, you will have a great understanding of what they represented to lots of young people at the time.

    A final thought… as the book is a shockingly honest read, I would be interested what they actually show of it on Disney channel

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    It’s not a documentary. It’s not the story of The Sex Pistols, it’s Steve Jones’s story (hence Pistol) and in my opinion it’s very good. I’d considered myself pretty knowledgeable about all things punk but I didn’t know for example that Chrissie Hynde was so involved from the beginning. I didn’t know the background to ‘Bodies’ either. It’s also been good to give my wife the back story to the whole thing.. she didn’t know about Vivienne Westwood’s involvement or the link to Siouxsie and Steve Severin.

    In terms of entertainment and nostalgia I’d highly recommend it
    The promo trailer is really embarrassing.

    If the insights above are the reason for watching then I'll steer well clear - they are all pretty well known already to anyone with a vague interest in music at that time.

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    The Sex Pistols on the Disney Channel? Oh, the irony....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    The Sex Pistols on the Disney Channel? Oh, the irony....
    Johnny Rotten wanted nothing to do with this Disney project…..Jonesy was in town last week but preferred to go and see his beloved Chelsea play than go to the after party in Camden but he needs the money. him and cookie are cashing in so the swindle continues.

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    Punk was a load of Shyte, nothing to do with music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
    Punk was a load of Shyte, nothing to do with music.
    I tend to agree with you there matey. Saw most of the punk bands live back in the day live. The only one that really impressed me were The Stranglers. The worst of the lot? The Clash! Saw them in November '77, what a tuneless racket!! Could barely play their instruments at that time and none of the feckers could sing. Saint Strummer sounded like an old dog with very bad laryngitis
    Last edited by Mr Soul '68; 05-06-22 at 09:40. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Lung View Post
    The new Danny Boyle documentary about the Sex Pistols on Disney Plus.

    It's rubbish, save yourself the money and don't bother.
    The Sex Pistols were nothing more than a manufactured boy band, by a willey, cunning entrepreneur of a manager. Felt this about the band back in in '76. Still feel this today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    The Sex Pistols were nothing more than a manufactured boy band, by a willey, cunning entrepreneur of a manager. Felt this about the band back in in '76. Still feel this today
    I can't believe people are still peddling this nonsense. Suggest you watch the documentary or read their books. You might learn a thing or two.

    You're going to tell me next it wasn't actually them playing on the records, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo View Post
    I can't believe people are still peddling this nonsense. Suggest you watch the documentary or read their books. You might learn a thing or two.

    You're going to tell me next it wasn't actually them playing on the records, right?
    Nah, I won't be reading any books on the band. Not really into manufactured boy bands, thanks. I certainly won't be watching the documentary if it is on the Disney channel. Weren't Disney all about fairy tales?

    Hmmmmm...rumours persisted at the time and probably still do today, that Chris Spedding played lead guitar on their early demos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Nah, I won't be reading any books on the band. Not really into manufactured boy bands, thanks. I certainly won't be watching the documentary if it is on the Disney channel. Weren't Disney all about fairy tales?
    Well unless you do, can you stop referring to them as a manufactured boy band and making yourself look ignorant and silly?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    Hmmmmm...rumours persisted at the time and probably still do today, that Chris Spedding played lead guitar on their early demos...
    Those rumours still do persist sadly.

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    [QUOTE=stevo;5307501]Well unless you do, can you stop referring to them as a manufactured boy band and making yourself look ignorant and silly?

    The Sex Pistols were seen at the time, and the legend has grown over the years, as the band being the saviours of rock n' roll. Although I purchased their first three singles (including 'Anarchy' as a French import from Spillers in early Sept. '76, as all UK pressings had sold out) I gradually came to see them as bit of a cartoon band. McLaren irritated the feck outta me, as did a lot of the dipstick punks about and around in Cardiff. By the time that odious creep Beverley had replaced Glen Matlock, I had washed my hands of the band. The more I read about the band over the coming years, it seems that they were put together by a very sussed, clued in entrepreneur. However which way you look at at it, they were a manufactured boy band. Just because their music is say different to the likes of Westlife, Take That etc etc, they are and were a manufactured band. End of

    Also, as mentioned above, I loved my rock music. Although taking an interest in early punk, it was just a passing fad for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Johnny Rotten wanted nothing to do with this Disney project…..Jonesy was in town last week but preferred to go and see his beloved Chelsea play than go to the after party in Camden but he needs the money. him and cookie are cashing in so the swindle continues.
    So, you’ve not watched it then?😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    So, you’ve not watched it then?😂
    Don’t need to - I was there at the time.

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    https://youtu.be/yzFFtBsl5ps

    The start of this is flat out metal

    Bass , drums , riffing

    Most punk was far too tinny

    Pistols , UK subs ,Clash , 999 , all too lightweight

    Discharge , Conflict , Dead Kennedys I could listen to being a metal head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    The Sex Pistols were nothing more than a manufactured boy band, by a willey, cunning entrepreneur of a manager. Felt this about the band back in in '76. Still feel this today
    Of course they were, but it was a truly outstanding example of entrepreneurialism that recognized the need for it at the time.

    In terms of what it spawned music wise I can’t think of a more influential time (I was too young for The Beatles)…. Without punk and everything it spawned we’d have been stuck with pretentious prog rock and the guitar solo’s and screeching vocals of heavy metal which I hated at the time. Over time I’ve mellowed a bit and can listen to Zeppelin and Deep Purple etc… but give me Nas or NWA or Eminem over that anyday. Under no circumstances will you find me going anywhere near Yes or early Genesis though

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